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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

fucking Telegram automatically converts any webp sent in a message to a fucking sticker

I didn't want that. I want the ability to view the image, including zooming in and panning, and telegram forcing it into a sticker kills that completely

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I came to bitch about the same thing.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This looks like the most relevant bug on Telegram's bug tracker for the issue: https://bugs.telegram.org/c/4360

Thanks, I thumbs upped it.

[–] Fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

webp is absofuckinglutely inferior to JPEG-XL and that one is where you actually have that problem. I’m literally providing an avif-fallback on my website, because otherwise pretty much no browser would support anything.

(Speaking of it, avif is also superior to webp.)

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll take ASCII art over webp.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

miss the days when I could watch the entire matrix movie on ascii before BitTorrent and streaming

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Some dude ran a public telnet server, which upon connecting, would present to you the entirety of Star Wars: A New Hope in ASCII. It was glorious.

[–] SoyTDI@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Avif, the only one that I hate more than webp. 😞

[–] Fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Why? It’s definitely better than webp, even if google’s chrome team uses it to justify not including JXL.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

for my use cases of memes or a PowerPoint type thing once in a while for school. Literally any image format works for me. I don't care about quality (as long as it's not REALLY bad) and just want to get the image from Google to the PowerPoint, and somehow GOOGLES own image format fails to work for GOOGLES PowerPoint product.
I don't understand how you can not support your own format 10 years after it came out.

pro tip by the way, you can open it in Microsoft paint then "save as -> .PNG" to get Google slides/whatever to accept it.

(before someone recommends alternatives, im talking about use on a locked down school computer. I can't use alternative software that's better because they block images in WIKIPEDIA, no shot for using an actual foss software lmao)

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

use on a locked down school computer.

Shift + Win + S

I'll bet they didn't disable that in Group Policy. Lasso that sumbitch right off your screen and then just paste it into whatever.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Paint trick would leave the option for higher quality, a screen grab leaves you at screen grab resolution.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

True, but I'll wager most of the things people are filching for these purposes get displayed on the screen at 100% scale anyway. Unless you're sniping a picture for large format print, in which case I figure you'd probably be under less restrictive conditions... Hopefully.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

You don’t even have to open it in Microsoft paint, you can just save it as a new format from the standard image viewer software.

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[–] gleb@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in my honest opinion, it’s a real shame that webp isn’t widely supported. it’s actually really great: it has awesome lossless compression, it’s so much smaller than a png while not losing any quality, it supports animation and loops, etc. it’s like jpg, png, and gif rolled into one format.

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[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

Real men use .ico

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The giant jpeg square artefact on the side of Homer's head in the first frame undermines the message somewhat.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that's a JPEG artifact. It looks more like a video compression artifact (since the image is probably taken from a video).

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait till this guy hears what videos are made of

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

lol there's a specific AVI format based on JPEG, but other file formats use different algorithms

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 3 points 17 hours ago

Pretty much all compression algorithms work similar to JPEG. The newer formats only add even more crazy maths to the mix, but the base is pretty much the same.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 157 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I recently put in a lot of hours for a software system to be able to handle webp just as well as every other image format it already accepted. I put in a lot of work as well. Hadn't heard about it for a while, but saw the feature release statement for the new version I knew my changes were in. It wasn't on there. So I reached out to my contact and asked if there was an issue or did it get bumped to a later version or what? So she told me the marketing team that do the release statements decided not to include it. They stated for one, people already expect common formats to be handled. Saying you now handle a format looks bad, since people know you didn't handle it before and were behind the curve. The second (probably more important) reason was nobody knew what webp even was and it's only something technical people care about (they probably said nerds, but my contact translated). So no regular customer would be interested and it could only lead to confusion and questions.

I hope somebody is happy with the work I put in tho. Somebody is going to drag a webp into the system and have it be accepted. Someday.... I hope...

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

The only ones reading the changelog are nerds anyway

[–] lostbit@feddit.nl 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

a bit related.

Was working for a comparison engine. Back in the day things where slow. But i made it lightning fast. Pretty proud.

Untill a few weeks later the manager comes up, and tells me to make it SLOWER!

apparently users thought it was suss that it was so fast and the results therefore where fake…

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 1 points 15 hours ago

Let me introduce you to good old speed up loops.

https://thedailywtf.com/articles/The-Speedup-Loop

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  1. Fuck those people for telling you this after you did the work
  2. Those reasons are hard-stop stupid. If they REALLY cared about the marketing they'd release it silently or add a "improvements to image format handling" line and leave it at that.
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I will second the suggestion at something like "expanded support for more image formats". One of my responsibilities is rolling the development log into customer release notes and I agree with the "changes that highlight a previous shortcoming can look bad", and make accommodations for that all the time. I also try to make sure every developer that contributed can recognize their work in the release notes.

"Expanded image format support" seems like something that if a customer hasn't noticed, they would assume "oh they must have some customer with a weird proprietary format that they added but have to be vague about". If it were related to customer requests, I would email the specific customers highlighting their need for webp is addressed after pushing the release notes

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 54 points 1 day ago

Maybe I worded it incorrectly. The feature was released in that version. They just didn't mention it in the release statement they put out to there customers. I'm sure there's some changelog somewhere people can dig into where it says something like what you mentioned. Or it can just be under "Various small improvements" which they always add as a catch-all.

So I'm happy, I did the job and got paid. Everyone I worked with was happy. And the feature got released. It's was just a let down it didn't get mentioned at all, even though I put quite a lot of work into it.

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[–] catnip@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

skill issue

[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

As someone who sometimes needs a quick and dirty stock image for my work, webp is the bane of my existence. The work computers won't let me visit sites or install programs/extensions to convert the image, and my document processing programs have no fucking clue what to do with the format. There is an option in Microsoft edge to edit image, and it will dump the result as a .png which is the only workaround I've found.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 65 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago

I had a colleague code a FFT algorithm in Excel because that was the only deployment tool the customer would be allowed to use...

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Just change the file extension to *.png. Works every time.

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

surprised_pikachu.webp.png

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[–] ludrol@bookwormstory.social 4 points 1 day ago

Unironically it will work as @Thorry84@feddit.nl and a bunch just like him has put in the work to Just Work^TM^

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[–] Olissipo@programming.dev 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (39 children)

I'm working on a project which generates images in multiples sizes, and also converts to WEBP and AVIF.

The difference in file size is significant. It might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people.

Here's an example (the filename is the width):

Also, using the <picture></picture> element, if the users' browsers don't support (or block) AVIF/WEBP, the original format is used. No harm in using them.

(I know this is a meme post, but some people are taking it seriously)

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[–] scholar@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (4 children)

.jxl is the better image format anyway

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

.jxl is still early. Webp is out for 14 years now and if support is missing its completely on the ineptitude of the client and nothing else.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I feel like jxl is supported even less than webp though

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[–] scsi@lemm.ee 79 points 1 day ago (9 children)
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