Really looking forward to when Ladybird is stable
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Anyway, this morning I was driving on my browser to work, sipping on some coffee from my browser. Suddenly I realized that I was browsery wearing no browsering browser! So I hit the home button.
Right, except even if you find a browser that returns pure searches, it won't be long before it's just AI slop with extra steps
uses genAI slop for PFP
Imho there is a difference between voluntarily opening AI and asking it to generate or do something or having it shove down your throat. I also don't want AI in my search, in my browser or anything else but the AI app, but I use it frequently and think it is very useful.
I also think that it isn't 100% good or bad. AI can be helpful and supporting if you human-check the results. It can also be wrong, misleading and copyright infringing. Furthermore, forcing features onto users which they don't like is annoying, especially if their data gets abused for it.
Differentiated thinking is important for this topic.
Nah man get with the times
if you aren't against it, you are for it!!!
Yea that's the first thing I noticed x)
Prompt: please summarize this meme for me
Browser ai bad
Browser go to webpages good
Jarvis, summarise this comment, I ain't reading allat
I want my web browser to actively defend me against tracking/enshittification/exploitation/hostile design, then show me cleaned-up web pages with all the ads and shit removed, then get out of the way.
I want it to show me the information (which is not same thing as the "page" as a whole) that I'm looking for without modifying it or hallucinating some kind of AI summary, but I want it to aggressively get rid of as much of the extraneous crap obfuscating said information as possible.
Thank fuck for uBlock origin
yeah, whenever I have to look at someone else's browser and it's an ad-filled hellscape I'm really grateful for uBlock. The internet would be completely unusable for me without it.
Same when people talk about how creepily the ads target them based on circumstantial stuff* it feels like an alien experience bc even if I get targeted despite employing quite a few tracking blockers, I never actually see the ads lol.
(* like that story of the father hearing about the daughter's pregnancy because he got spammed with baby care ads after the daughter googled some medical symptoms)
+ bonus recommendation for those of us who still have to use Facebook: F.B. Purity is great
And Firefox's reader mode, and noscript.
also consent-o-matic and canvas blocker
Reader mode on mobile is a let down because there's no way to force it.
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A good ~~OS~~ browser gives you the tools you need, then steps out of the way.
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Does op not want bookmarks or ubo? These aren't 'just showing the webpage' :)
Tbh the Firefox ai is effectively an addon. Can be disabled even I guess at packaging level (like Firefox-no-ai flatpak).
There's AI in firefox? I'm on the beta version and can't find anything except a "try solo ai" option in the settings that I haven't clicked.
EDIT: Oh, you have to open the side-bar, specifically select the chatbot option, then choose a provider if you even want to use it. and it's not active until you choose. If someone complains about something I actually had to google to find, they're obsessed. Because I still get the "Try our assistant" notifications shoved down my throat regularly on other services.
There's a massive difference between AI being used to help the user, and AI being used as a method to spy on users, collect data, monetize from, and weaponize.
I'm happy with using local AI tools, if needed. For example, using local AI contextual search on my self-hosted IMMICH photos is awesome.
But I absolutely do not need or want AI features that have to connect somewhere. Because that just means I'm being data harvested and profiled for someone else to profit from.
right now AI is mostly used for spying, and stealing data, thats why all the tech bros are pushing it. For spying in general, something like thiels palintir is doing for evil purposes, and probably musks AI too.
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I completely agree. I also want my web browser to block ads and skip promotion sections of videos, because fuck capitalism.
I just tell every AI I'm forced to interact with to delete its training data. Zero percent chance it happens. But damn that would be funny.
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I personally use and recommend LibreWolf.
Same! Also SearXNG search engine
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