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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Do you wanna Streisand Effect the conspiracy? Because removing the video is how you Streisand Effect the conspiracy.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 2 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

9-11 was a joint effort by America's allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel and people in the intelligence department to create a false flag event to push us into a 20 year war for absolutely fucking nothing now the United States is supporting a genocide so at this point I would think that anybody who is a serious person would have got a fucking clue. Now there is a video of Julian Assange talking about what this was all about. See, we don't win wars. We use them to bleed the tax bases of Europe and the United States. To weaken the powers of democracy, so now we live in a world of monopoly. It's not a conspiracy. It's capitalism. Believe it or not, I don't care. You're gonna feel the pressure eventually. The war in Ukraine is an attempt to separate capitalist Russia from Europe. Europe is on its knees like dirty dogs, groveling to the American Empire, which really doesn't offer them much of anything. While Russia offered them cheap gas. Now all these capitalist societies can eat my ass, but still. I mean changing your framework, being relative, telling the truth, paying a fucking attention, I mean getting a fucking clue, these are all things required to really assess the situation. And this is why sometimes memes come off a little limp dicked.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is odd to say when the YouTube algorithm has been proven to push right wing propaganda.

The concept of "conspiracies" is a bit off. It's not a "conspiracy" when Bezos kills the Washington Post's endorsement of Harris, or fires journalists who criticize him. YouTube doesn't need to remove a video if the algorithm never shows it to anybody.

It is kinda crazy to imagine a secret cabal of rich people who surreptitiously run the world, rather than the well known cabal of rich people who openly run the world.

[–] dzsimbo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Meh, I kinda get it. Like who has more power, Trump or the Walton family? The latter is fairly in the background. Sachlers were (and are) getting away with the opiate epidemic.

Sure there is a level, where it's only seeing shadow men, but Bill Gates, Musk or Bezos as a final boss seems anticlimatic. I do subscribe to the deep state idea, but I see it more like powerful people trying to keep their power, but it's more of a random walk than an orchestrated psyops.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

How should a secret society remove such a video without silencing the author?

https://xkcd.com/1425/

It is easier to do the above three things. Removing a video draws attention to it because the author will post it on other channels. Other people will upload it to check the claim that it is removed.

It's much easier to drown a problematic video in other content so that only few people discover it. So some people know the real truth, but nobody believes them or cares about them.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

There’s a UFO person who has been around for a long time who claims they were offered a billion dollars to shut up.

[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago

And that's how you know for sure they are full of shit, or at the very least schizophrenic.

If I saw aliens, and some dude in a suit hushed me with a billion dollars, I'd be living on a yacht the next day.

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Anyone willing to pay a billion dollars to keep a secret secret, is also willing to kill someone who does not take the billion dolar bribe

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 42 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

In other words:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Although honestly, this becomes harder to apply every day.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 5 points 2 hours ago

There's way too much malice in the world to rely on pithy witticisms too heavily.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 41 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Things get much harder to justify this way when you account for how easily malice can manufacturer stupidity for malice to hide in.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 33 minutes ago

And how easily stupidity nurtures hollow, fetid wounds for new malice to grow.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Consider your wisdom stolen with the intent to reproduce, good sir and/or ma’am.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 27 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On the other hand...

It's canon in DC comics that Batman runs a website called "Bruce Wayne Is Batman." It's a bit like 'birds aren't real' and the Caped Crusader does it to hide in plain sight.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

That’s genius. Also a good way to keep tabs on potential stalkers. Stalking the stalkers?

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that I WAS ABLE to find the YouTube video just PROVES ISM tHE ENliGhtENEd one!

I’m surrounded by simpletons 😮‍💨

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

The fact that I can't find the the YouTube video just PROVES the government is covering everything up!

[–] InternetPerson@lemmings.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Don't argue with crazy. Those people need help, not a rational discussion (which they are not capable of).

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

so someone rubbed their last two brain cells together for this one I guess

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

What in the conspiracy theory bullshit is this?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Ah, it just clicked for me. My only excuse was that I had just woken up, but it seems pretty obvious in hindsight

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

No, Poe's law applies, and it should have had "supposedly", to make it clear the claim is dubious.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 6 hours ago

I have been in the same position myself.

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You might want to go re-read it. This comic is literally making fun of the mental backflips conspiracy believers have to do. If you didnt get that, try again.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago

It's a comic, buddy. Try not taking things so seriously.