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Any Book of the New Sun fans? (startrek.website)

submitted 1 day ago by MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website to c/sciencefiction@lemmy.world

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One of my absolute favorites and I'm hoping folks want to talk about it.

Hands down my most reread book. Me, an atheist, never imagined a twisty/puzzly novel about the life and times of future space jesus would speak to me so deeply.

The prose is multidimensional and layered with meanings that only come into focus once you know where it's going.

Some of my favorite examples:

The title of chapter 1
Severian first finding his dog.
Thecla's story of a fortune teller predicting she would sit on a throne.
The ending of book 1
The ending of book 2

Any other trek fans delighted by Group of Seventeen in book four, realizing it was 10 years ahead of the TNG episode "Darmok"?

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Read the first volume, so, the first two books I think? Did not particularly love it. Misogynistic post-apocalyptic Holden Caulfield just never grabbed hold, and the prose, to borrow a phrase, insists upon itself.

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Misogynistic post-apocalyptic Holden Caulfield

Lol that's a new one for me. It's funny because it's true 🤣

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, I don't want to cast aspersions too much. I could see what Gene's getting at, and it is absolutely literary in a way that not enough sci-fi is, but the mix didn't work for me, and I just didn't want to spend time with that crew or see where Severian was going to end up. Or rather, given the narrative's structure, how he was going to end up where he ends up.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Lmao I love this

TBotNS is awesome

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tried to pick up one of the books (the long sun), made it partway in.

I think I grasped the underlying conceit, and I thought it was cool, but man they just kept dancing around it like crazy.

I think I'm just less interested in the people than I would be in the setting.

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't read any of the long sun books but I feel like I understand that feeling. Fwiw, I first finished all 4 books and was only satisfied with the end of book 3. Thankfully there's so much meat between those endings that it kept me going.

That disappointment is what made me realize that I must have missed some important details and start an immediate reread.

Once I started over on the first book it was amazing to realize how the clues are just everywhere. I'm reading the exact same words, but this time they're hitting way harder.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

I didn't give it enough of a chance, I know that.

I've been reading crap popcorn scifi lately, but the deeper ones need a lot of focus I haven't had lately.