But why would orange juice be effected by tariffs?
Would it have anything to with growers shipping concentrate out of the country to get bottled and then re-importing it back to stores?
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According to the text in the article it’s a Canadian grocery store. So they presumably imported it from the US.
I have a bottle of this in my fridge and if you want another answer it's because they import a portion of their oranges from Brazil. They don't say where it's been packaged though
What's the egg price at currently? Haven't heard of that for a while. Is it normalized of has it become the new normal?
The people that were vocal about it are quiet now cuz their orange daddy is in office.
That's the point. To push the consumer market to shift to American made goods. What this idiot has missed is that American doesn't have the means to make these goods.
So as always, he fucked up another "business" and it'll lead to terrible consequences. Just like all his Trump businesses that failed.
Art of the Bankruptcy.
America not only doesn't have the means, because of the tariffs it can no longer get the means. Manufacturing requires a lot of heavy industrial equipment that - surprise, surprise - isn't made in the US.
But to say that Trump's goal is to move production back to the US is almost giving him too much credit. He doesn't really have a clear idea of what his goal is. Depending on the moment it changes, and the various goals he suggests are all contradictory; each one can only happen without the others. He says he's imposing tariffs to move manufacturing home, but that only works if the tariffs are set to last a long time. But he also says he's making deals, and that only works if the tariffs will be removed as part of the conclusion of the deal. And he says that the tariffs will replace taxes, but that only works if the tariffs are permanent, and imports remain at their current levels rather than manufacturing moving back to the US. For any one of those claims to be true, the other two can't be.
There is no plan here. He just likes the idea of tariffs, because he has only ever understood the world through the lens of power; of dominating or being dominated. Tariffs feel big and muscular, like throwing punches but with money. That's why he wants them. The rest is just excuses. It's really all about his crippling insecurity, and the entire American right being in his thrall.
They do seem to be getting tired of his shit as well
What this idiot has missed is that American doesn’t have the means to make these goods.
Regardless of one's opinions on tariffs themselves, this was such a stupid, hamfisted way of going about it. It's almost like phasing in tariffs incrementally over a period of, say 10 years, would allow for adaption and for production to get spooled up.
I use "10 years" as an example, an economics person would be better qualified on the specifics.
If you want to see how government can spur investment in onshore manufacturing capabilities just look at the CHIPS act, which we can’t have because the “wrong” team did it.
Depending on how much money you throw at it and how much support you get by the government in dealing with regulatory processes, moving existing complex plants could take 2-5 years. Add another 1-2 years if you start from scratch. However when starting from scratch you have to do the same in other places too, so the relative time loss gets smaller.
Fact is some megacorporations already announced that they want to invest into manufacturing in the US because of tariffs. It will not offset the broader impact but help Trump sell his tariffs as a success.
We could make products in the U.S., but that takes time. You cant ask someone to pick up their manufacturing line on Monday, and be ready to move it from Mexico or China to the U.S. by Friday. It'd be at least a few years before they could manufacture anything in the U.S.
It also takes the manpower. Americans really like sitting in cushy offices whenever possible, or being in service roles in general. Manufacturing is like, hard, and not fun, and you can't scroll on Insta while you're making shit.
The manpower is there and will be driven by necessity and availability. There's nothing to suggest that manpower is inherently different, the goat herders and lavender farmers do their work manually not because they're stupid or hard working, but that it's the best available job. You might have some whining in between though, that's what the protests and fascism is about.
In some sense, high paying tech/service jobs are just leveraging infrastructure (of communications, education, networking, political stability, power, etc.) to create the high profits enabling the cushiness of workplace.
Manufacturing doesn't require that. It might be that with the plan signalled in the intense government (which is the main driver of infrastructure) cuts, there will be no other option in about 10-15 years time. Or at least with a larger class divide where only the rich can afford education and living in well maintained cities (kind of like Silicon Valley come to think of it).
The strange thing is that it also generates less wealth, meaning less money for the rich folks to get rich off of. Is it just short sighted, or do they have a planned exit?
Corporations blurred the line between "actually made in America" and "the last doohickey is attached in America" for so long that they actually forgot there's a difference...
So? Who CARES? This is a SMALL PRICE (WELL a Big Price) to Pay for being able to Call Autistic Black Kids the N WORD!
SIR, EXCUSE ME BUT WHERE CAN I SEND YOUR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS IN CROWDFUNDING FOR YOUR IDEA
i thought the tariff charges would make the owners feel the pain until the jobs became local. why am I being charged more??
/s of course.
What I dont understand at this point is in their world view what does it matter WHO pays the tariff, the increases are always going to hit the consumer somehow.
Importer raises prices for customer to covers tariff charge.
Exporter raises prices for importer to cover tariff charge. Increase costs for importer are passed down to the consumer.
Fuuuuuuuck
The magans were told/promised/"explained" that "chaina" would pay the tariffs, as in give extra money on evey product it ships to the US.
As of very recently, there is an attempt to flip the story where companies make so much profit they can easily eat the tariffs instead of passing them to the consumer.
it’s manufactured consent to keep ire away from the dictator doing the tariffs and on the corporations. i can only hope it radicalizes some into realizing the problem is capitalism that dictates how the corps react to the tariffs.
That one screenshot with comment 'I thought tariff was taxes on foreign countries', I can't tell if that is sarcasm or not.
It is not.
The average Trump voter truly thinks tarrifs = "That country pays us money".
"Thinks" is being quite generous here I feel.
Where are all the "do my own research" mofos now? Would be nice if they did that and learned about economics...
They don't like lemmy because they don't understand federation. So they think the "300 users a day" on a post, means that is everyone across all instances.
No "/s" needed, Trump said that Wal-Mart should eat the tariffs.
Trump says stores should eat the cost. Real MAGAs would shoplift. Just saying
I wonder if the surplus goods that would have been sent to USA will instead flood other markets and bring down prices there.
That's what some Europeans are fearing (while lower prices are neat in the short run, expectations are European businesses will suffer the consequences of those surplus dumps).