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Left-wing pundit Hasan Piker claims he was detained at US border and questioned on political views (www.thepinknews.com)

submitted 6 days ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't listen to the lazy slander of Hasan Piker, which is one of two types, either dismissing the incredibly dangerous precedent this sets because they don't like his politics (which is a massive red flag about that person) or they try to slander him as some crazy radical.

Don't listen to these people's words at face value, decide for yourself, if you want to know about what happened listen to Hasan's side before you jump on the lazy hate train other people are honking the horn for in this thread.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RI5FH2vZanQ

[+] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca -13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This has been happening for ages now with your average person, and now we're supposed to care about how this happened to Hasan?

N.S. folk duo questioned about allegiance in U.S. traffic stop

At no point did I say I'm dismissing the precedent. The precedent was set months ago, and people are kidding themselves if they're seeing Hasan as the first example of this.

All I'm going to say is how I'm sick of the fact that it takes the bad things to happen to a big name for Americans and people in general to give a shit, and while I do care about this happening to people in general, Hasan? Couldn't care less.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This has been happening for ages now with your average person, and now we're supposed to care about how this happened to Hasan?

checks notes yup says here under basic human decency that actually we are supposed to care about bad things happening to people even when we believe those bad things have happened in the past to other people, glad we cleared that confusion up :)

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's not what I'm saying and you know you're misconstruing what I'm saying here.

"Oh no, the economy's in a downturn, thousands of people are losing their jobs, but let's make an article about how that negatively affects Taylor Swift"

"New disease killing millions claims life of Ben Shapiro"

I'm not saying "this has happened to people before, suck it up buttercup", I'm saying of all the people this is sadly happening to, this is the guy I care about the least. Replace Hasan with Alex Jones and tell me you'd give half a shit in comparison to anybody else facing this.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Replace Hasan with Alex Jones and tell me you'd give half a shit in comparison to anybody else facing this.

Yes, I would still be disturbed, but more importantly I would focus on raising people's awareness of the pattern I had previously noted before I believed others had.

Even comparing Hasan to Alex Jones as if they are even remotely equatable is absurd though.

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"in comparison to", I'm not dismissing that this is still bad happening to Hasan.

And that wasn't my point, I was using an over the top example to show where I'm coming from.

[–] Slam_Eye@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Hasan piker is a geek and a weirdo but you shouldnt be detained at the u.s border regardless of any opinion you have.

[–] Fu@hostux.social 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

@Sunshine this is nothing new. I was detained at the border and questioned about my political views back during the Obama administration.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ohh, okay. Gotcha.

False alarm, everybody! I have it on good authority from Ji Fu that nothing is getting worse and there's no cause for concern here. This is just any average Tuesday. Thanks, Ji Fu! Really appreciate you looking out for us.

[–] Winthrowe@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

This is an average Tuesday. I have felt unsafe and been boycotting American travel since the patriot act dropped.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't make it right.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pretty sure that's not what he's saying, I think what he's trynna say is the states is a corrupt shithole where freedom of speech hasn't ever existed.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

I dunno. I watch Vaush, I watch Hasan. I watch Sam Seder. Please don't kill me but I watch some of PirateSoftware too (yes I know how much Lemmy hates him).

I'm not gonna defend their views, I can't/won't. I generally wanna hear their takes from their perspectives (as flawed as they could be).

I also don't see that even if I disagree with their views that I'd want to say negative things about them being detained as I don't think any of them have asked for it? Like, I'd be cheering if Joe Rogan got detained and bullied. The reason being he endorsed this type of stuff so it's sweet watching someone get a taste of their own medicine.

[+] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca -19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Sorry, frankly don't care about what happens to this good-for-nothing hypocrite.

Ah yes, lemme stand outside my mansion with an "Eat the Rich" T-shirt all while I refuse to pay my editors.

Asshat.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"First they came for the rich socialists..."

I'm kind of indifferent to Hasan but law enforcement harassing anyone for their political views is troubling.

[+] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca -19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, but he's done more harm than good to how people view left-wing politics online.

This guy has trashed 9-5 job workers labeling their positions as being "easier" than being a streamer, all while he sits, talks, and leaves the room with the video running. He doesn't edit his videos, other people do, and he's on record refusing to pay them.

He decided to become a leading left-wing voice, and in being a massive hypocrite, has likely pushed people away from left-wing politics to be picked up by right-wing freaks who rightfully call him out. He's on the record taking Russia's side for invading Ukraine both in 2022 and 2014, has defended the Kai Cenat riot calling anybody who criticised him or the rioters racist, and many other such comments. I'm supposed to feel sorry for someone who likely contributed to people moving to the right, translating to more Republican votes, while under the guise as a left-wing figurehead? Yeah, no.

"O hey everyone it's time to care about dead babies in Syria social media told me so."

Go ahead and downvote me, just know you're enabling those who push the Overton window to the right with their blatant hypocrisy.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Noted. Which of those things is a potential crime he should be detained for?

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

He produces edited videos via multiple video editors that agree to the work, but he does not pay? (I’m only peripherally aware of the guy)

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Hasan exploited my labour for YouTube videos

Hasan agrees to pay YouTube editor after “exploitation” accusations - Dexerto

Nobody edits multiple videos for a name as big as Hasan voluntarily, and if they do, good for them. With common sense this should have been interpreted as paid work.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This looks like people making assumptions and doing work before an agreement is made.

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I agree to an extent, but regardless, editing 7-8 videos taking hours of work should be paid. That this wasn't until he went to the community's subreddit about it is ridiculous. Video editors doing work for you is something that should by default be seen as paid work, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone to do it voluntarily.

The guy shouldn't have made the assumption he had an editor position in the bag and that this was a guarantee, but Hasan having received and published this work shouldn't have assumed it to be free cause nobody does that. It'd be a completely different story if Hasan never published the edited vids.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s unique that the edit went up on a channel he controls.

People editing podcasts and streams and building unauthorized/unofficial channels is super common. I can see how that makes this even more murky, in a way where Hasan can be “huh? What? Whatever bro.” About it.

Messy messy quasi-parasocial stuff.

[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Honestly? You make a good point.

Perhaps in regards to that I've misjudged him, but there's still a number of things I think he's said and done that have done more harm to left-wing politics in the states than good.

Not that it does anything, but I've gone ahead and downvoted myself on the initial comment. I don't like deleting posts I've made, even if my mind has changed since making them.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 days ago

I don't know him what's he done