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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I said this at the time, why field a chancy candidate in a country of racists and misogynists unless you wanted to lose?

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obama won in 2008 and 2012. An establishment candidate of color, or woman candidate, will fare worse than a white equivalent (like Biden). But a strong leader of color, or woman leader, could absolutely win.

Also Bernie was white and a man, but the DNC had very different reasons for not liking him.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you have to be a much stronger candidate than Harris was to be either of those things, let alone both. Obama was a very strong personality and he only had one strike against him. And he wasn't running against a social media shitstorm because that whole strategy was still very nascent.

We already saw what happened to Bernie in the 2016 DNC nomination race; he wasn't going to get that close again, they had to pull out all the bullshit DNC fuckery to get Hillary in there.

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[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think that is going to be necessary any more.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Tbh Idgaf. I really don't. Show up to the primaries, whoever wins gets my full support. I will volunteer and campaign for that person, whoever it is.

[–] railcar@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 2 weeks ago

Andy Beshear is pretty centrist which is why he can get elected in Kentucky. And I know the opinion of centrists around here, they're conservatives. He might be able to win a general election, but can he win a Democratic primary? Well if he's the Golden boy, the party will shoo him in just like they did Hillary, even if there are other candidates that maybe could be more popular. Nothing like democracy in action in the Democratic party!

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

She’s making her move

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's Beshear isn't it?

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