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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Sony tried that in Brazil, but it didn't go as planned. The court ordered them to unbrick it, but they had to provide a new console because they couldn't unbrick it. And they paid damages.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's it, I'm going to skip Switch 2 and get a Steam Deck next. And I'll stick to stuff that can run Dolphin.

(Learns that Xbox Series can also run Dolphin without modding) Well shit, I'm set for life, now just need to sort out the portable console situation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If corporate enshittification is the reason for you to skip on the switch, giving any more money to Microsoft doesn't make sense either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I assume they already gave them money for it years ago.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Oh, you thought you owned that thing you bought? No. This is 2025. You own nothing. It doesn’t matter how much money you gave them. Yeah, gave them. Because you didn’t buy that stuff. You’re just borrowing it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's cool. I'll install Torzu on my ROG ally and play all the fucking switch games I want to.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Well I also reserve the right to not buy their underpowered shit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Cool! Time to go to the sea for more nintendo stuff! Good think you cant brick a device you dont have control over 😘

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that's illegal in most parts of Europe. Checking the article it says that the policy has only been updated in the UK and the US.

Sucks to be a country without adequate consumer protection, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it'll turn out to be illegal in the UK too, it's just that the UK isn't in Europe anymore so these things always end up having to get hashed out in the courts and then it always turns out that the UK basically just follows the EU standard anyway.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

They can "reserve the right" all they want, that's illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I'd love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nintendo emailed me today saying something like they changed their EULA and if I didn’t do anything then it counts as accepting the new EULA unless I close my account. Haven’t had a switch in years, didn’t even like it and gave it away. Anyway I closed my Nintendo account immediately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

It was such an underwhelming product at least from my point of view. I mostly just kept it docked but really other than Zelda games there wasn't anything worth playing.

I still own it, but for the life of me I couldn't tell you where it is.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve recently decided to complete all the games we’ve bought on our family Switch before allowing myself to get a Steam Deck alongside my Ps5.

While Nintendo has some very good games, I think I’ll never buy again from them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just fyi, I believe Sony has stated the same right as well.

The reason this is in legalese is because of the possibility of online cheating.

I don't agree with it, I'm just saying the ~~excuse~~ reasoning console corporations give.

Anyway, it's illegal to do that in the EU anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Rverything is about "online cheating" it's the think of the children!! of the gaming world

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn't available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.

After(poorly) doing it, I wasn't able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.

So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.

Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won't allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.

They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (8 children)

So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too "secure" or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.

Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You'll find duct tape on all the latches.

Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You're going to find post-its under keyboards.

Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.

Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They'll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.

Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.

When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.

Meet your customers where they're at!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Basically what Gabe said.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Soooo, just curious but, instead of modding, why didn't you just set your console region to Japan? That's what I did. Just seems a lot easier.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I didn't know you could do that. I'm in Taiwan and I know Steam doesn't let you make a purchase without a local credit card. So I imagine that's the case for Japan.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Similar here. Bricked my kids switch, so we modded it. Now we have ALL the games.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Next time just use a Switch emulator. Sudachi is a good one.

You can even download Fitgirl Repacks of Switch titles that include the emulator already set up and ready to go. Literally just a one click install and you're playing.

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ah. So now we're merely 'licensing' physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At this point I'm surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

I'd like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that "permanently unusable in whole or in part" includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it's the user's fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.

But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don't like. That is absolutely dystopian.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (16 children)

I don't seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

This is the part that really frustrates me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the wording here. Account ban? Sure, against TOS, etc. But affecting the device is a whole other story. Especially when prior account bans have come under dubious circumstances.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That corporation is still stuck in 1985 or 1989 (otherwise stuck in the Showa Era), trying to keep absolute control of anything it made.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

The 1980s were before the DMCA. In those days if you bought an expensive piece of electronics both seller and buyer expected that you owned it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

I'm gonna pirate some Nintendo games just out of spite, really.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

I've been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I'm not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

i mean if i had a specific nintendo console for pirated games, i wouldn't connect it to the internet

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn't seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet/run updates in order to dump their games or play pirated copies or whatever they wanna do! That'll stop them!

/s

Edit:

This seems to be more about their online account services and their updated privacy policy than anything else, but I still think my point stands, just not for this article.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago

Well that's some fucking bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

or alternatively communicated: “You will own nothing and you will be happy”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

i can't wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Fuck tinendo.

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