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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

"Trying" lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago

Tbf, it's been in decay since Reagan. Long time coming to get here. Trump was inevitable when we didn't address inequality, lowered taxes on the wealthy, and allowed Citizen's United.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Pfft. 250 years to build it. Trump would have built it in 3 tops. Nobody builds a county like him. He’s the best country builder person. Everyone says it. You guys are just jealous or something.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

This could be the first time he's ever been successful (unless you count bankrupting casinos, and other 'businesses' a success...?)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

Wrong. It took the revolution, and it has been decaying since

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago

To quote the Beastie Boys.

It takes a second to wreck it

It takes time to build

And with this fat fascist, there is no chill and we're all fucked.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago

There is far too many "won't" "can't" "it's over" "he'll never leave" and not enough "Let's make him leave" going on if you ask me.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

As an African American, those 250 years of building was never for us, so while I'm happy that our unjust systems are crumbling under their own weight of stupidity. I wish it was being properly dismantled brick by brick from the left opposed to knocked over by what appears to be two elderly men with clearly anti social sociopathic and toxic masculinity, driving a triangle shaped truck that struggled to drive up a curb. The wall has just fallen on top of the poor, POC, and LGBTQ+ community. And the capitalist are going to just see the heep of bodies and bricks as a new road to drive over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but even the left or more specifically the Dems are still complicit in the shit show we are seeing now. I really don't want Trump in office under any circumstances, so I'm not saying to vote for him because Dems are shit too. They are definitely a much lesser shitty side.

The main issue is people are greedy. This goes back to the beginning of time. This is why history repeats itself. Just look at Rome and what Julius Caesar did. I feel like that is Trump now.

And then the Senate during that time was the same. Rich goblins leeching on society. This is a fight against the rich and against the people that take way more than what they need. Their bellies are full and yet they keep eating. This is why slavery was a thing and to make themselves feel better they used racism to call people with darker skin color than their own, monsters. People are fucking sick.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago

Similar sentiments here. I'm a trans and PoC immigrant, this country was never for me. I'm glad it's collapsing, I just feel sad for the good people who have to live through it.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

He's not "trying to undo" it. He's largely already undone it.

He has done permanent and irreversable damage to our relationships with our allies around the world. Countries like Denmark and Canada now have to look at us as potential adversaries as we repeatedly threaten to use military force to annex their territories.

He has obliterated our ability to maintain strong political and economic ties. Sure, with every administration comes tweaks to various foreign and economic policies, but American policies in general have been considered stable and reliable over the long term. Countries now believe, and have every right to believe, anything the US says only has a shelf life of 4 years before the next administration comes in and flips the table on a whim, and that anything Trump says only has a shelf life of until he has a conversation with someone else and randomly changes his mind. Businesses and governments can't be expected to function under those conditions, and it is going to take us decades at best to show the rest of the world that Trump and MAGA were just short blips on the radar and that the US can once again be trusted in the long term. That's assuming we ever get that trust back.

Even domestically, how many collective centuries of experience has been purged from federal government operations as a result of Trump's mass firings? Even if these agencies were re-opened and fully re-staffed tomorrow, how long would it take them to wind things back up and get back up to full strength? If they're re-instated after the Trump administration, how much damage would be caused in the interim, and how many years or even decades will it take to fix it? How much data that these agencies relied on has already been permanently lost?

How many years of scientific research has already been destroyed as time-sensitive experiments and studies get cancelled due to de-funding? Again, even if these institutions would be able to restart work tomorrow, how many experiments have already been invalidated in the interim? How many years are we now going to be behind in scientific research?

Same goes with vaccinations. Environmental damage. Race relations. The list goes on and on and on. What he has already destroyed in four months will likely take four decades to repair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Along with all this, he has undermined trust in systems that were largely held together by trust. How many times were we taught about the "checks and balances" built into the system, only to see they're ultimately a facade. The court rules against an action the president takes, but they can't actually enforce it. The president overules congress's power to write the budget, but they can't actually stop him.

All checks and balances required a faith in the system working along a myth that was created. Not that myth has been shown to be false and there's no going back. It'll take serious amendments to the constitution to repair, or a new one altogether. I don't think either of those are happening in the current political climate though.

So yes, he's done a lot of harm externally, but also internally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Even if these are restored, the spell has been thoroughly broken.

Trump has shown that the supposedly sacred institutions intended to protect democracy absolutely disintegrate the first time a 3rd rate dictator shows up and knocks them down.

Trump has shown that the office of the presidency itself can be obtained by the most dipshit motherfuckers imaginable.

Trump has shown that our electorate is hilariously unqualified for the responsibility of choosing our elected officials.

Rebuild everything, and what are we left with but a system that is utterly incapable of protecting itself against fascism? How in the absolute fuck can we ever be expected to respect the office of the presidency again after seeing that the absolute worst among us is capable of achieving it?

At this point, I think people are just hoping that the next election will restore the illusion. But for a lot of people, the perception of what this country is will be forever compromised.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They shut of the systems that kept research cell lines alive and viable. Those cell lines are gone. There is no replacement. Knowing this, in retrospect we should have have cell lines located in many locations, not just one. I can't stand it. This is 'crimes against humanity' level of action by this administration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Could you (or someone else here) expand on what that means? What were these cell lines used for on more concrete terms?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Medical research.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

it is going to take us decades at best to show the rest of the world that Trump and MAGA were just short blips on the radar

The fun part is we don't have decades. We're already at +1.7C. Insurance actuaries are predicting ~~4~~ 2 billion deaths worldwide at +2C. We will literally never recover from Trump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna need a source on that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks.

Sigh

It's a very nice, very depressing, document. More people should read it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yeah, everyone underestimates climate impact and the fact that we are already past points of no return. It feeds into the cultural nihilism we have today. We're kinda doomed. People just dissociating and pointing fingers at each other. The system is designed to cater to sociopathy and no good leaders can rise to the top to navigate us around the icebergs we're headed straight towards.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago

Honestly you couldn't have been more on the nose. Trump has harmed the world in deep and foundational ways. Mostly involving trust and good will

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago

...there's no trying, man, it's already undone...

[–] [email protected] 58 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's weird that a lot of people don't see this. They'll say "Oh, Trump is doing this thing because he likes this group" or whatever but it's really that he's doing the thing because he thinks it will benefit him in some way, usually monetarily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

They like Trump because he’s hurting people they don’t like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

This term is a vengeance tour, what he gets out of it is hurting people he believes did him wrong

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

certainly anti civilization

[–] [email protected] 18 points 22 hours ago

From barbarism to civilization requires a century; from civilization to barbarism needs but a day.

Will Durant 1885-1981. American writer, historian, and philosopher.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Especially the last hundred years since ww1 and the last 150 since yellowstone became the first national park and started a system greatly expanded and championed by a republican president. Of course the post office is from the dawn of the country and a mark of any real society. Certainly more so than some stupid parading of military crap.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

And there's no chance of ever getting pre-Trump America back. You guys voted for this. Twice.

Actions have consequences, and you're in the "found out" phase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"You guys voted for this. Twice."

Why pretend the election was legitimate? It was not. This has been openly admitted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes, Trump has said publicly several times that he would not have won if the elections weren't rigged.

That said, he didn't fabricate tens of millions of votes.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

Lmao. Why do people still think the US in its pre Trump form was this great achievement? There was never anything unique or exceptional about the US. Trump was inevitable specifically because of how flawed the US is and was. The american people has never been interested in participating in democracy, it was always run by frauds and it was just a matter of time until someone figured out how to abuse that situation for something other than the typical shit that corporations have been abusing it for.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

What’s lost can’t be restored any time soon. Pretending constitution and democracy can still come back in our life time is just self delusion and waste of everyone’s time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

No shit. So many of us have been saying this for well over a decade

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Reminder: the republicans in your life should be ostracized. For starters.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

It is always easier to destroy than to build, or to protect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That’s good. Our government has become so corrupt and incompetent it needs destroyed and rebuilt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Revolution sounds better and better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

like a coalition?

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