whats with all the fat phobia
this post was submitted on 07 May 2025
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Maybe we've just embraced being fat.
I only wish.
people will do anything to avoid eating a healthy diet and exercising. I lost 120lbs in just over 2 years from walking and eating low carb real food.
That's sort of what Ozempic does though. It reduces the desire to eat large amounts of unhealthy food.
Once again, carbs are not the problem. Italian and French people eat tons of carbs and are way healthier than Americans
The easiest way to boil down weight loss is calories in calories out. If you are in a surplus, you will in most cases gain weight (with some deviance based on genetics and other bodily factors). Lots of carbs is fine if you have a lot of calories out. European people usually have walkable cities, and the infrastructure there promotes lots of calories out on a day to day basis. America is a lot more car centric. The average american has less calories out because walking/cycling is uncommon in most of the US. Coupled with the standard caloric dense american food, it's easy to see how we are struggling with an obesity problem.
Low carb is just one way to cut down on how many calories you intake. Nothing wrong with it, and there are obviously many other ways to go about it.
Your entire comment, which is correct btw, is agreeing with my point that carbs are not the problem
Plus, personal anecdote -- carbs don't curb my hunger as quickly as protein and fat do. On a heavy protein day, I snack little to nil.
Thats accurate. Carbohydrates are much more easily broken down to its simple states, while proteins require more to be broken down to amino acids, so it makes you feel full longer. Fibers are also another way to stay feeling full. They're not digestible, so it takes up space and makes you feel full without adding calories.
Yes, but there is a difference between grains and refined sugar and high glucose corn syrup.
I agree. I don't think my homemade bread with 4 ingredients is a problem
Congrats! It’s not easy! I dropped 60 lbs the same way. It’s the only thing that works long term since you have to retrain your body and mind, learn new habits, and build interest in maintaining it.
I lost 40 without making any new habits other than weighing in daily with an app that estimates my caloric balance over the last two weeks. Turns out that I didn't need big changes to diet and exercise to get into a persistent decline, though I've lost another 15 since starting hormone therapy
I lost 0lbs from not being fat. (I'm sorry I don't think you're fat but I had to write this all out, it's a disease of the mind)
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"Weight Watchers files for bankruptcy as old weight loss scams are supplanted by new weight loss scams"
Fixed the headline for them.
While I've not taken them, though I've thought about it, I've met people who have. It's shocking how well those drugs work. Both of them were super happy with the results and could probably be sales reps, to be honest. One was even proud to share her before photo, because she wanted to drive home just how well it worked. No one believed her until she showed the photos.
Yeah fuck off.
I’ve been overweight my entire life, over five decades now, and these drugs are nothing short of a miracle.
In addition to changing how my body processes sugar, it kills any desire I have for any particular food as well as hunger.
They like to say that it “silences food noise in your brain” and that works as a description but it doesn’t convey just how truly profound that is.
You can tell that it works, BTW, by how much they charge for it.
I’m down a little more than 30 pounds in 90 days. Given enough time I will be slim/normal for the first time since the 1970s, and I don’t appreciate chucklefucks calling them a scam.
You know what’s a scam? HFCS. Sugar in everything.
These new drugs though - not a scam. At all.
I used to work in public health, and even among educated people there was a lot of prejudice against the idea that addiction was beyond the individuals control.
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Hey good for you! Keep it up dude.
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Weight Watchers is basically eating in moderation, its most definitely not a scam.
One could argue that paying a subscription to not over-eat is a scam similar to the way gyms prey on people and get them to sign up while expecting that they'll only come once or twice.
One could say that, but they would be wrong lol
Wegovy/Saxenda whatever others are (GLP-1) inhibitors aren't a scam, they work.
They are absurdly expensive for the benefit they bring. Of course, fat lot of good it does if you don't use it to the full extent so you can actually get off of it.
The pricing is absurd. In Denmark it's like $80 for four weeks. in USA it starts at $1000. But medicine in USA is a whole other can of worms.
In Germany it starts at $300 (2.5mg/week) and goes up to $540 (15mg/week). But then if you get a 15mg/week prescription and happen to only need 5mg/week (possibly supported by taking it more often than once a week), and also make use of the 1.3 (my guesstimate) extra doses that are in the syringe (but a bit difficult to extract) you pay like $120/month. This is what a proper gym costs in my area. And honestly, you safe on food, too. And on your weight watchers subscription!
The work in the sense that they cause weight loss. They do nothing to keep the weight off once it's lost. And they have side-effects, some quite nasty.
These new Semaglutide medications work by mucking with one's appetite and slowing digestion. It's actually mimicking a natural process that occurs in a species of desert lizard if I remember correctly.
So they work, and in trials they found people. lost at most about 30% of body fat, which is significantly more than any previous weight loss drug, but for folks who need to lose more than 30% they won't reach their goal body weight. (But it does certainly make the Hollywood approach of taking semiglutides to rapidly lose a fairly small amount of weight make more sense)
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The modern them actually has an app that lets you build out recipes and/or scan barcodes to track what you eat, they use a distilled version of nutrition called "points" and you're allocated Y points a day to try stay in your food budget.
I think their older system was also points based just not software.
The app has training content and some kind of social community (that people say is quite terrible apparently because of the other users).
It isn't a bad concept, and helps one understand that a slice of pizza is insanely unhealthy if one didn't already know that.
Where it falls apart is their skeezy subscription model. Best time to sign up is around New Years, if you do bulk pricing you get a discount for the year, if you sign up partly through the year, that discount only lasts 10, 8, 7 months, however many are left. If you want to get a better rate, even their customer service says to just cancel and then sign back up after you're canceled. If they had honest flat-rate pricing and curated their social space/education material better, they'd likely have had something to offer...Instead, like most health tracking/exercise/apps that cost money, it's difficult to manage, expensive, and abrasive to cancel.
Like so many businesses that went "app" - they didn't embrace a usable and sustainable model that fit on a digital platform, and instead basically phoned it in.
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