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Can someone remind me why we stopped using Firefox a while back? There was some piece of news that broke everyone's trust, but I can't remember what Mozilla did. Was it a change in their user agreement?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

There was some uproar when they essentially de-committed to supporting MDN/developer tools in 2020

...we are reducing investment in some areas such as developer tools, internal tooling, and platform feature development, and transitioning adjacent security/privacy products to our New Products and Operations team...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A: Not all of us did.

2: It sucked for a while, performance went down the toilet till they rewrote the engine in quantum.

Honestly threading was horrible for a decade there, while chrome had multi-processes running solid, even extensions didn't kill it, even if it burned 500gb ram to browse bash.org.

Experiments were bad too, but you could shut those off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's amazing how few people remember just how terrible its performance tanked. The memory leaks were truly unbearable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Probably

I didn't though, because the alternative would either be very small browsers with no or very limited addon support, or FF forks. And until now, everything Mozilla added was either opt-in or very easy opt-out. So hopping wouldn't change much for me, except that there's no LibreWolf nightly, and I doubt that self-compiled addons work there consistently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I have a silly reason! I got a windows phone and loved it, so was happy to use Edge (when it was still its own thing and not effectively Chrome).

Edge's PDF viewer was great, and in general things were speedy, got out the way, and best of all it synced bookmarks to my phone. :) I also liked the rewards system for using bing, and between microsoft and google, I regarded google as worse ethically. (Obviously... yeah not a solid argument)

I think I switched back to firefox and variants mainly because I started caring about my data, open-source, and also those advantages Edge had were eroding in real-time, with adverts, nagging, and Windows things creeping in - the rewards ended, the chrome thing, it started feeling like the IE days again.

One of my coworkers uses it still, and it pains me to see what new AI gimmick is being shoehorned in.

If I stopped for dumb reasons, I like to think I came back wiser for it. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I never switched, I installed Chrome, started it, saw the UI, hated it, uninstalled it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

What follows is a list of missteps Mozilla made since its inception. LibreWolf ftw. I hope Google has to divest of Chrome and forced to stop signing search deals to make them the default search engine on a browser. Can't happen soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Back in the early days Mozilla redesigned Firefox interface. It was so incomprehensively moronic that I moved to Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Firefox was late to use multiple threads for the UI so it was horribly slow and hanging every time a page was loading. I think It took them around 2 years to get this done while Chrome was running great.

Even I being a hardcore Firefox user, I went to Chrome for 1 year or so as it was intolerable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, chrome came out and was that much better than every other browser at first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

When Chrome initially came out? Not even close. Firefox was a bloated piece of crap, Chrome was slim and didn't have all the bullshit that every other browser had.

Obviously, things have changed a little...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I think OP is mostly focusing on why people switched off of FF. Present behaviour isn't super relevant to the conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It was too noisy. My wife and I used to live in a small apartment. I'd leave my Linux box on all the time. Running Firefox, it'd periodically spin up the fan, which was loud enough to annoy my wife at night, and me during the day. Chrome didn't spin up the fan. I switched and we stopped hearing my noisy computer.

This was a while ago. I can't remember if it was Firefox or Mozilla at that point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Because I use only android or Samsung dex. It doesn't work on dex & android seems forgotten. I use per site zoom to much.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

Um Sir, this is a Lemmy

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