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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I answered my own question about why they choose Oblivion over Morrowind in my head last night. It would have taken way more work to bring into the modern age. Oblivion was already pretty close to what Skyrim is, and they even use the same scripting and logic (including bugs that were never officially fixed!) so all the work was just creating the new assets and then taping UE5's graphics engine to GameBryo/Creation.

It also would have required ass loads of money to record every line of dialogue. Remember: Morrowind didn't have a lot of voice acting. It was mostly text-only.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Skywind has been in development since 2012. I would call that more than a few years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

well i would imo, whenever comparing volunteer work vs paid full time of a prof studio we should at least divide the time by half if not more. so 6 years ish of work~ and if i could i would just provide the actual work hours comparison and not just total time since start. etc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They've accomplished a ton. If they were only aiming to recreate the base game that would still be great, but they've fleshed it out, added full voice acting, and done every scrap of work to a professional standard.

Not only that, it's so close to finished now it makes zero sense to start writing them off based on how long it took. If someone took a decade to walk around the earth, you wouldn't talk this way when they were a few months away from home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"wouldnt talk this way" what? just to be clear, im literally championing skywinds team & hard work, arguing that if Bethesda really wanted to, their studio could very quickly produce full 'remakes' (not remasters) of both morrowind and oblivion from the ground up like what skywind/skyblivion are doing, both in about the same time, they chose Oblivion because it was cheaper/faster to literally outsource to another company for just a UE facelift and some QOL changes, all so they could focus on whats really important, more "micro" transactions for fallout 76 and more empty fishbowls for starfield. (just FYI that last line is pure sarcasm)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Sorry for the miscue, I was agreeing with your view over the person you were talking to

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

taping UE5's graphics engine to GameBryo/Creation

I can imaging maybe writing an interface layer, but given the scale I kinda doubt they'd choose to do this.

IDK I could be wrong, but if we know they used UE5 my bet is the game was rewritten in mostly new C# and blueprint.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Morrowind would be cool too

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Morrowind would have been cooler.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Boromorrowind would have been even cooler still

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How about Borrowind. It would be a breeze.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I tried but then I took an arrow to the * everywhere *

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Now that's a tongue twister

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Be silent. Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I did not pass through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

debatable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

ES Vi would be better. Not shit we have been able to play for the last 18 years...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

I'm not so sure. The tech has gotten better, but it feels like the decision-making is worse. If Morrowind was white water rafting, Skyrim was a log flume ride. Sure, it's a more luxurious experience, but it's not as fun. The freedom was the point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

does your original Xbox still work?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Yes, actually. But Morrowind should be played on a PC, regardless.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't be able to stand watching new Bethesda massacre my boy. Leave Morrowind in the past where it belongs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Morrowind remake with Bloodmoon, Tribunal, and new additions on a map larger than Skyrim, in a self-contained portable VR set that also works as a handheld and PC. I will pay $10k for that if I have to live in a cardboard box.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is the end for you, s'wit!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

While I'd absolutely love a Morrowind remaster, I'm fairly sure that the encounters with a certain Dark Elf rogue which (for a female character) went a bit like "I'll let you go for a little a kiss, what's the harm?" and Uncle Crassius (Let's see what we are working with, take off those clothes) will be seen as 'problematic' these days.

Fortunately guides like https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Morrowind_graphics_guide exist so you can make Morrowind look pretty good even today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

The nice thing about morrowind is that because it's mostly text-based, it's so much easier for modded dialogue to blend in with original content (if it's written well).

Hmm, maybe I should try my hand at modding: With the right speech craft/personality stats, you can trick Crassus Curio into kissing a guar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's not the graphics it's the clunk

Games have plenty of problematic characters, I doubt this would be an issue. Bg3 was popular.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

But this one has Boromir in it! ...sort of

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Remastered always looks like it's spelled wrong