To be clear, Synology branded drives are also third-party, but it's just third party they make money on. They don't actually make drives and there's no real technically valid reason behind this move.
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Turns out my next NAS will be a custom after all.
Looks like I'll have to treat my current Synology like I treat my Brother printer. Reverently.
I bought a U-Nas case a while ago. Just a small NAS-style PC case with eight 3.5" disk bays. I built it up and played around with it, but never put it into service in my homelab. It just sat there (off) with Truenas or something on it for testing. Well, it was a good thing I never did anything with it as I needed it the day my Synology died last year. It was a DS1518+ on (a lot of) borrowed time having lasted nine years. I mentally toyed with buying a new NAS, but the idea of spending a few thousand dollars didn't excite me (or the wife).
So, I loaded up Xpenology on a thumb drive and plugged it into my U-Nas. It did not take me long to see how easy this was to load up a Synology DSM and hit the ground running. Then, once I loaded all my disks in, it saw everything and asked if I wanted to upgrade the OS. Sure, why not?
So, all data intact and running a mostly generic set of hardware as a Synology only a couple of days later. Zero extra cost for me as I already had everything. But you can do this too with hardware you might have laying about. I highly recommend it.
DS1518+ on (a lot of) borrowed time having lasted nine years
DS416 nervously blinks in the corner
Don't you dare.
Nice! I'll keep this in mind!
Synology requires self-branded drives
I've started to categorize enshittification headlines by how many words it takes me to know I won't be dealing with a company again (after reviewing the article for accuracy, of course). This one only took 5 words, and one is a compound. That's pretty efficient.
The enshitification will continue until revenues improve...
Glad I built my own OMV
That’s a shame. Building your own NAS it’s not that difficult and a valuable learning experience.
Have any handy non-video guides you would recommend on how to do so? I’m keen to learn this.
Any PC building guide, use a case with enough 3.5" bays and a mainboard with plenty of SATA and M.2 ports (if you want SSD csche).
After that it gets more specialized.
Get a fractal case, go to pcpartpicker for the rest... Get a gold PSU... Be sure to check on getting a motherboard-cpu combo that supports ECC RAM... Install a linux distro with proper support for zfs (e.g. I wouldn't recommend Arch), perhaps TrueNAS Scale. Done :)
That’s a big fuck-up.
Hey maybe the Sonos app guy can help them out.
Will avoid. Thanks for the heads up.
Feeling real good about learning TrueNAS Scale now.
Any tips on dealing with ACL?
Oh, you mean my biggest problem?!
I've just resorted to using the shell to set permissions on stuff. For the most part everything works but I've had issues with NFS shares. I think some of that was copying from Windows and Windows trying to do things it shouldn't but once I just manually set things up I was able to back all my stuff up.
VMs and apps run in their own little areas so they just happily hum along.
Well I currently own a Synology NAS and it officially will be my last.
Yep same. I bought my 1522+ in 2023 and it should continue to meet all my needs long into the future. But when I finally decide to decommission it, it'll be time to diy an unraid or freenas build
"third-party HDDs"
In my day we just called these... HDDs. Anytime something so ubiquitous has to be labeled third-party, you know who the bad guy is instantly.
Imagine making sure customers don't buy your shit.
They’ve been implementing this for a while with some of their models. There’s an excellent script that is actively maintained to get around their shit policies.
I’m only using a Synology (ds1823xs+) because I got a killer deal. (Sometimes I still wish I went with unraid.) I’ve never encountered any issues using unapproved hard drives with this script.
My man, I wouldn't bet on Unraid not going the same route like Plex.
Ha! I bought a plex lifetime pass years ago while on sale. Maybe one day I’ll switch to jellyfin- maybe sooner than I think.
On a positive note synologys brtfs is pretty cool. If anything, it’s one less thing I don’t need to worry about.
I don't regret building my home server with Unraid at all. It's great, use any drives, don't even have to be the same sizes.
The pricing is reasonable, but one issue is that they changed their pricing scheme recently to only give a year of updates for all but the costliest license. I was grandfathered in unless I upgrade my license, but it's something to consider.
I'm using Openmedievault and it works just fine. No need to spend money out put up with enshittification.
buying brand name is almost always a bad idea when it comes to computers.
take advantage of their modularity, people. desktops are still popular for a reason.
Synology's new Plus Series NAS
This isn't surprising. SOHO and middle tier business hardware installs have all kinds of these requirements from support vendors. Synology was sort of an outlier on those that just allowed mixed bag and it provide software calculations on hard drive health.
That they want knowns in their machines isn't surprising. I'm actually surprised it isn't a complete drop in any assurances if you BYOD.
These features in this product aren't home or consumer grade and indicating that it's for the "advance home user" is like saying Arch Linux is the advance MacOS. There's a lot of detail behind that statement that's not being addressed.
It is sad to see them go this route, but I cannot say it comes as a surprise. But honestly, if you're a hobbyist and see yourself using the features in this level of NAS, you're likely skilled enough as is to build your own. And honestly, you'll be happier building your own.
well after hearing this. when I buy a NAS i'll be going with any brand except synology
I love my synology router and had considered buying a NAS. That's a deal breaker for me though. I have a proxmox machine running ubuntu server as a "NAS" right now so I'll stick with that.
I really love my Synology NAS (DS220+). I don't anticipate needing to replace it anytime soon, but given how well it's treated me, I would almost certainly replace it with a 2024 model instead of a newer one if I had to, given this new limitation.
This decision from them seems short-sighted, I hope they reverse it.
Haha wow what an absolutely HORRIBLE descision, wtf?! So glad I went with QNAP!!
Is that really new? My drives are technically "unsupported" but you can just execute a script that will add all installed drives to the supported drive list and then you get all the features.
You shouldn’t have to do this though and I won’t buy another Synology if this is how they treat buyers.
I've only seen the "non supported drive installed" notification once and in my experience it affected absolutely nothing about the device.
In my experience it blocks out some other notifications that might be interesting.
Also the Synology branded SSDs are like 3x the price of a WD alt.
Crazy how they're just going to make such a nice brand go to shit.
Per the article, I believe this is a change to new 2025 devices. Is yours from 2025?
They're all updated to the latest DSM, maybe any change is just on new models shipping.
We use a LOT of their small 2 bay units at customer sites, and the latest we've installed were using Synology brand drives, so not sure about those
When they say "the 2024 Synology models and older are not affected by this change", it makes me think it's either very recent or still ongoing, as you said.
Some companies make it too easy to choose their competitors.
Anyone know of anyone else with the same level of turnkey NAS solution? I liked synology for its lack of having to fuck around with random bullshit.
Qnap
So, it doesn't affect existing models, just the new ranges of NAS that will be released soon. And if you own an old one you can use it to format non supported drives and migrate to the newer models.
Pretty shit, but at least it's not going to majorly affect existing set ups.
I wonder if Synology will realise how bad of a move this is and one day roll it back. This will kill their consumer level market share, do they have enough of an enterprise market for this to make up the difference?
Okay I guess I'll start scouring the internets for a quiet, low energy build