I hate my HOA except that it's the only thing from keeping my neighbor from filling his yard up with garbage and junk cars. My bar is low, but it's above that. We live too close for that kinda shit.

I’ve lived with good HOAs. I’d still rather they dissolve and everything be part of normal city operations.

Plus is it just me or are the same people that say they want small government also the ones who are super pro HOA?

Yes, definitely. They’re just bullies trying to rebrand themselves.

A lot of things an hoa covers is already covered by the township here so I'm unsure why you'd join one. But they're also not as common here because of that. I know some neighbors tried ages ago and something like 80 percent told those prone to screw off.

Yes

You can have community orgs that don't make you pay fees as a condition of owning your home.

Yes. Housing is tough enough as it is. Linking a lot of properties to the HOA is disgusting and should be illegal.

Objectively yes. We don't need an extra government to cover the job of the actual government, especially not ones that are easy for psychopaths to infiltrate. Your park? That's the damn state's responsibility, pay your fair share of taxes instead and let the city handle it. Your home value? Don't treat housing as a damn vehicle for investment. All those nasty poors and minorities? If they bother you find a way to leave earth, permanently.

HOAs are emblematic of everything wrong with America and actively strip away the good parts.

I mean I highly dislike them but also feel like many people like them for the exact reasons I dislike them.

Absolutely.

for regular ass house on a regular ass street, yes. exceptions are made for condominiums, apartment complexes and gated communities.

Waiting for the inevitable showdown over having hens in your backyard. Instant solution to the egg problem.

Should HOAs be banned?

That's an easy one:

YES!!!

I think a small community being able to have say in who moves in, asking contract term violators to leave in exceptional cases, while still being liable for discriminatory actions, can be a good thing. However, being able to fine members and repossess their property? That should be 100,000,000% illegal.

I don't want to live in a neighborhood where you can leave a car to rot on the front lawn, where you can have cows shitting all over, or you can build a 20 foot tall Jesus statue in your front yard.

If your HOA sucks, then get involved and make it better. Mine is fine.

An HOA can have a very positive effect on a neighborhood when handled properly, but inevitably a troublemaker gets on the board and starts making life miserable for everyone.

There was a recent local case where an elderly lady in her 80s accidentally underpaid her HOA dues by 30 cents. They started fining her, and before she figured out there was an issue, the fines were thousands of dollars, and she couldn't afford it. She tried to work it out with the HOA board, but they were immovable. Then they started foreclosure proceedings, and that's when she went to the local news.

This lady's house was paid off, and they had every intention of taking it away from her in her old age, over THIRTY CENTS!

The news tried to reason with the HOA, but they wouldn't be reasonable, and the last I heard, she was going to have to pay a lawyer to fight it in court.

No HOA should be able to take anyone's house away for any reason. Same with back property taxes, especially if a propery is fully paid off. It invites predatory behavior, and there are always people who will gleefully exploit such situations.

Yes

Banned? The freedom cities will be the best HOAs ever.

Yes.