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[–] [email protected] 78 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He's not going to find the cause. He's going to declare the cause.

And we all know it'll be vaccines.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago

My bet is they’ll blame it not just on vaccines but also an array of other foods and shit. Seed oils. Processed foods. Whatever has a grift alternative cottage industry that can profit off the scare.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

As a person with autism, the idea of captain Roadkill finding the cause of autism laughable, no matter the timescale

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

It's probably roundup in severe cases.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

RFK jr will be lucky to discover how to tie his fucking shoes by September. What a delusional clown son if a bitch...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The entire US tech industry is built on monetizing autism. Why would we want to cure it?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Also it's pretty fucked up for people to talk about "curing" neurodivergence. It's not all that different from "curing" queerness or transgenderism. Ultimately the biggest problem with autism is a misalignment with social expectations, which leads to social disadvantages. So maybe it's really society that needs to be "cured". Maybe we should structure society in a way that doesn't punish people for being different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh fuck off, if there was a cure i'd take it.

"Society needs a cure, not us" yeah, and I guess society should just tolerate inappropriate behaviors or meltdowns and tantrums too. What does that even mean?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

To what extent are those behaviors something inherent to the neurological condition versus something exacerbated by the conditions that society places on those people?

There people who argue that transgenderism shouldn't be tolerated because there's a strong correlation between being transgender and being depressed to the point of suicide. They believe that "humoring" the "sickness" just leads to more suicide. But the reality is that transgender people aren't generally depressed when they're part of a supportive community rather than being alienated.

I'm not an expert in neurology, and I acknowledge this is a large degree of speculation on my part, but maybe these outcomes can be different if we collectively approach the matter with more understanding and empathy. If the tantrums truly can't be helped, then create space for the tantrums to happen in a way that minimizes disruption to others and doesn't elicit judgment.

As a manager I've been on the receiving end of a very aggressive tantrum directed at me from someone who reports to me that I suspect may be on the spectrum. He didn't feel like I was paying enough attention to his work, and rather than bringing it up to me in a respectful and constructive way, he had an outburst one day where he scolded me in a very demeaning way, essentially accusing me of being negligent as his manager. I suspect a lot of people in my position would have escalated that to HR right away, but instead I took the time to listen to his grievances and acknowledge that I could have done some things better as his manager but also that he is accountable for communicating his needs to me in a timely and respectful manner. He acknowledged that he could've handled the situation better and we came up with a system that makes it easier to get what he needs from me.

In the end no one's feelings needed to get hurt, no one's career needed to be damaged, and no one needed to deal with HR, because I was willing to understand the outburst for what it is and not take it too personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I came here to say this, but you said it perfectly. As an autistic person, I don't want to be "cured".. I like the way I am and I tend to like other autistic people too. Most of us are genuine, to a fault, and I'll take that over an intrinsic understanding of weird/unnecessary neuro-typical social games any day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself.

Plenty of disabilities have anti-treatment culture because it gets conflated with identity.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-deaf-people-oppose-using-gene-editing-to-cure-deafness

https://blog.disabilityinfo.org/a-cure-for-down-syndrome-or-a-celebration-of-chromosomal-diversity/

Your experience may be different, but acknowledge that others' experiences are too. Some of us want the advantages and easier life that effective treatment would provide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

This is exactly my point though: What if people with autism weren't disadvantaged in society? Then the idea of "curing" it would be meaningless.

I understand that you're frustrated by the challenges you've dealt with in your life, and I acknowledge that I'm speaking from a place of privilege as someone that doesn't have any disability. But personally I'd rather see a world where people don't feel like they're disadvantaged for not matching the status quo than a world where everyone is equal just because everyone is the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

What if people with autism weren't disadvantaged in society?

Okay, even if every person in the world magically didn't find autistic behaviors offputting or subconsciously uncanny, and they were willing to be extremely accommodating, go out of their way to overcome communication issues, life would still be a chore

Sensory issues, executive function, and difficulties learning, are internal issues some of us face.

It's a developmental disorder plain and simple, disability for many. It isn't all rainbows and sunshine and "everyone is special in their own way". But everyone seems to forget this because everyone wants to be positive and accommodating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Also it’s pretty fucked up for people to talk about “curing” neurodivergence. It’s not all that different from “curing” queerness or transgenderism.

QFT

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

There is no cure. It’s genetic. It’s been detected in the womb via brain development. It was found last year, and I’m surprised it wasn’t big news.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago

If they come out with a vaccine that prevents autism, do you think the uneaten part of RFK jr’s brain will explode?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago

"Sure, all the valid evidence outright disproves a link between autism and vaccines, but have you ever considered lying?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Technically RFK can't lose; if a shitload of kids die from preventable illness in the next decade versus the last, then ostensibly there will be fewer cases of autism too. WINNING

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t know that I’d want to be “cured”. Normal is boring.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What neurotypical people don't get is that autism affects literally everything about us. From how we perceive and interact with the world to how we experience emotion to how we think to our self-awareness and self-perception. To cure autism would be to cause a death of personality. We would be fundamentally different people, if we remained at all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I think they would find that outcome acceptable