Really hoping he's still alive and can get asylum in Canada for himself and his family and tell his story.
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Yeah. This comment broke my heart a little. I've been thinking about what the reality is like for these people thrown into some of the worst places in the world, all of a sudden, for doing literally nothing. What they wake up to in the morning, what they're eating, what their day is like. He's presumably not hardened to any of this. He's just some guy. He may not have any access to news or any kind of information or know that the Supreme Court has said anything about it.
It could be you or me. Or anyone you know. Just randomly snatched off the street for no reason at all, and then thrown into hell, on purpose, without even a pretense that there is a justification for it.
So there's a weird little story. Lifetimes ago, a man named Dmitry Sklyarov got snatched at a tech conference in the US because he had back home written some software that according to someone was illegal in the US. It was bullshit, but this was back in the pre-Patriot Act, pre-ICE-as-Gestapo days. The US was a lot more democratic back then. But, anyway, they nabbed him, and the forum-typing activist internet did its thing, and there was a protest outside the jail about what bullshit it was. Eventually, he had some hearings in front of a judge because that's what they did back then, they dropped the charges, he got to go home.
Anyway, it's easy to look at something like this past weekend and think it doesn't mean anything. Everyone ran around with signs, people got mics or bullhorns and got performatively mad and yelled. Maybe in the grand scheme of things it didn't do much, as of yet, although it's not over and there's another one set for the 19th. The point with Sklyarov is that he said it really touched him that people were having a protest outside the jail. He said back in his country, no one really cared if someone went to prison. Maybe your family and close friends would get involved, but as far as the general public it's just like "oh well I guess he's in prison now." He said it seemed really weird and wholesome that these random people he didn't know were outside yelling about it, even if it didn't "do" anything for them to be there.
It's like "Hey buddy, you're not forgotten. We're taking time out of our day and doing travel to yell about it because we don't like that you're in there. We know your name, we know it's bullshit, we're willing to put some effort in."
I don't know if Garcia knows that there are people talking about him and that there are protests against the ICE fuckery, but it's important not to forget about him. His life is important just like yours, whether or not the Supreme Court thinks it's worth bothering with.
Just a thought I had about your mentioning of the protests. For now, the protests aren't doing a whole lot. Or at least they seem like they aren't doing enough. But there's some things that they have done.
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showing how many people showed up to those protests encourages more people to go to the next protests in the future. It also might bring people hope that there are lots of rational people living around them. It starts the possibility for a conversation and action between people. It helps organize people.
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Trump is setting up more and more anti protest bills. Eventually, he's going to get pissed and send the police after these protesters. This could be a catalyst for riots and further action. As shitty as it would be for people to get hurt or worse. It seems that escalation is the one thing that gets good people moving, fighting, and defending.
Yeah. There have been people who are deciding inside federal agencies how to react to some things that Trump has done, and in the discussion they talked about the crowds of people outside their buildings yelling about it. It gives them backing, it gives them confidence that they're not alone if they decide to stick their necks out. And yes, as things get worse and worse (which, absolutely, you can be assured that they will), they can evolve into something more and more resistive.
It's not enough, yet. But it's definitely a good thing. If anything I was saying made it sound like it's bad, I do not think that at all.
Oh no, sorry, I didn't mean that in any way negative. I wanted to add some reassurance and to add to your point about the protests. You're all good :)
A bridge too far for this court? Good thing I was sitting down.
This is just so obvious. It's unclear how the "oops" defense could possibly win the day in something so egregious. But it also gives Roberts et al. cover for later rulings that are less benevolent: "Hey, we told the government to bring that guy back from El Salvador! You can't claim we aren't following the Constitution!"
Yeah. I read it more as "Please exclude me from consequences if any in the future, but no we won't stop him. Hey, we said they should 'begin process to'. Should be good?"
Maybe I am cynical but I don't think the Supreme Court is where the rescue will come from.