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Hi All,

As some of you may have realised, the planned upgrade sort of crashed everything, and we had our longest period of downtime since the site began.

This is partly because I had to go to sleep (thanks to a newborn and a job).

The good news is that the backup process worked! We've restored to seconds before the upgrade took the site offline.

The bad news is that federation is likely to be.. wonky.. for a little while. The site may also go up and down while I undo some of the fixes I tried.

Ultimately the issue came down to the upgrade failing (I am not sure why - will be digging into this now the priority is no longer getting the site up) and then the containers not talking to eachother, so the UI wouldn't talk to lemmy, and lemmy wouldn't talk to the database.

I rebuilt the containers, restored the backup, restarted everything, and it's all come back up (admittedly not perfect right now).

Importantly, I want to issue an apology. This isn't what I want for Lemmy.zip, and it should've been handled way better by myself. I'm always learning but this took way longer than it should've, and while I take some solace in the fact the backup process worked and has been proven to work in production, the delay in being able to get this back up is entirely my fault and frankly unacceptable.

I'll be working to document this outage, the steps it took to get it back up, and some form of repeatable plan so a repair can be replicated in the future if I'm not available.

In terms of upgrading to 0.19.11 - I will have to try again soon as it's got some security fixes we desperately need to implement.

Thanks

Demigodrick

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

lemmy.zip best instance lfg

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone has already said it, but don't even sweat it. I had a little time when I tried to check in on Lemmy and couldn't, so I simply set it aside to try again later. Things hum along smoothly here so much more often than not, and I wouldn't be surprised if a sizable portion of us have been in that same position ourselves of needing to straighten out a failed upgrade for some project or other. I know I certainly have

Praise be to containers \o/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hey man its all good. I understand living the working parent life. It ain't easy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Dude I'm a devops engineer and I totally get it when an app in my cluster goes down and customers start to freakout. However, I get paid to deal with it. Whereas you are doing this as I imagine as a side fun thing. You have ran this entire thing super professional since the beginning. You are doing great. If it was an istio thing that caused your containers to not talk... Believe me when I tell you that is my hell (that I'm currently experience now with one particular app). You are doing amazing work here. Thank you so much. Glad I'm here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks squirrel! 😊

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I definitely felt that! Trying to check the feed and getting a 502 was not nice. Good thing I had an account with another instance for the interim. Anyway, no service is bulletproof and things absolutely go wrong when running a server, no matter how good or prepared we may be. Having working backups is instrumental and I'm glad you have that going.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you Rose! I think when I saw that first 502 I took a year or two off my life with stress 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Chiil, you do a great job managing this. There is no need to blame that way yourself.

Get some rest, enjoy first stages of parenting and take your time updating.

Thanks a lot for lemmy.zip and take care of yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No worries man. It's just social media. We survived!

One thing I was curious about is I didn't know where to go to look up info on what was going on? But you mentioned you were posting links, so I'll bookmark some of that info! Anyway thanks for all your hard work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah absolutely, I'll be putting more links up. I wasn't prepared for things to go quite so wrong and for so long, so other than the matrix chat there wasn't any other info.

I'll be using mastodon, matrix, and I've updated the status page to be one that should actually work now :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is FOSS, not a job. You are doing it for free + maybe some donations people give. This is social media, not some critical health thing that needs to be working 24/7. Thanks for caring, now you know for next time, but don't beat yourself up. We appreciate your efforts and the transparency you have been giving us by making these posts! Keep on going with the transparency, but take it easy on yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The graph shows the Federation sink is finished after four and a half hours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Woo! We should be good now, although there might be a few lost activities if things don't look 100%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Great work and welcome back 🤗

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