Jfc. And they still bought the kid a gun.
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The father. The parents had been separated *before the time FBI contacted the father, who then bought the child the assault rifle. The mother and her family had been trying to get the son treatment.
Jfc again. I hope a few heads roll with this one.
It would help a lot if schools were fully funded along with fully funded, single payer, comprehensive health care.
Any kind of mental health care would be acceptable at this point.
Georgia is ~~a red state~~ currently a purple state*. Kemp ~~stole~~ won the election from Abrams by campaign ads of him locking and loading.
*Edited
Georgia is a purple state held hostage by GOP gerrymandering. We saved the damn Senate, remember?
I edited the post, and I feel your pain. I'm in a neighboring blood red.
No, Kemp won the election by literally rigging the vote, then destroying evidence that the FBI specifically told him that he could not destroy. Then he certified his own victory, as the election commissioner. Since then he has faced no consequences because the United States is literally not a democracy.
https://apnews.com/article/877ee1015f1c43f1965f63538b035d3f
That's literally what happened
I know. It's why "stole" is strike through but the bit about Ms. Abrams isn't.
This is wild. From memory, I know which comment your reply addresses. It shows up looking like you're replying to my comment answering the person who asked why the FBI interviewed "the FATHER." I contacted an admin about this issue, as two users have mentioned my look like they're showing up in reply to the wrong comments. If/when they contact me, I'll mention this.
Wasn't directed at you, it just sounds like such a hyperbolic statement but I remember it happening
Wow. It showed up on my notifications. It's fine, though. It keeps the memory hole at bay and that's important. Others either never knew or already forgot.
Sure. And he got a lot of voters with the commercials, too.
Florida approved chaplains in schools. I wouldn't take that as an acceptable form of mental health care. Luckily, the fine folks at the Satanic Temple have expressed interest in sending their own chaplains, so the plan has stalled out a bit.
Best we can do is..... Fuck all
With utmost respect for you, because I understand you clearly. We (our leadership, rather) can correct most of our issues, but lack the willpower, because Club Ultra wealthy. If anyone reading this has lost a child to mass shooting incident, just know your elected national leadership prefers donation from the monied elite before and during office, and cushy jobs and retirement, after.
Dad thought taking the kid to kill a deer was therapy.
Not even a particularly good deer rifle
No one I know would ever use that, for hunting. Shotgun and rifle shells are crazy expensive.
An AR-15 isn't really powerful enough to hunt deer reliably unless you are an incredibly good shot
For some, it is. Others not so much.
God, if there was ever a reason to award someone full custody, this would have been it.
Was it the meth charge that convinced you she was a good parent?
I know nothing about a meth charge, but she was the parent who called the school and TRIED to stop this when she realized her son was being weird.
So in the grand scheme of which parent should have custody, i’d pick the one who didn’t hand him a gun.
Be that as it may, full custody shouldn't be given to methheads. It's almost like it isn't a simple, black & white issue.
Or better we give the kid to the maternal grandparents who it sounds like the mother was living with and get the child therapy and the mother rehab and not call her a methhead to stigmatize her when she fucking tried to do the right thing here.
The addict had more sense about her son than his father did. Maybe, just maybe, we should stop criminalizing addiction so that we don’t end up with 4 dead people, 9 injured, and 2 people looking at life in prison.
If you don't know anything about it then maybe don't chime in with "she should've had custody" eh?
It was a very troubled family, the symptoms of despair and trauma. It's time we start addressing addressing the causes of despair, as well as symptoms, and healing our collective trauma.
Is it money? Seems like money. Like money is all the despair
Strange that the FBI contacted the FATHER and not the mother regarding a child (unless both were visited?). So weird as usually it's the opposite; schools for example always try and work with the mother when it comes to kids and their parents.
He lived with the father. Maybe that's why.
Why would they contact the non-custodial parent?
Something is going on with reply order. Admin had been notified.
The sheriff’s office said that it had informed the middle school in Jackson County that he had attended, but school officials there denied this week they were told of the threat.
Sheriff's are quite possibly the most corrupt arm of law enforcement. I don't believe him for a second.
Ms. Gray pleaded guilty in December to charges of criminal damage to property and “criminal trespass/family violence.” She was ordered to pay damages to a construction company where Mr. Gray had worked and was forbidden from having direct contact with her estranged husband, court records show.
So, you got him a professional who could help him start to sort and address his multiple needs, right? (The family had been evicted, so this is a rhetorical question to which the answer is almost surely, "they did not have the means to do so.")
Ms. Gray pleaded guilty in December to charges of criminal damage to property and “criminal trespass/family violence.” She was ordered to pay damages to a construction company where Mr. Gray had worked and was forbidden from having direct contact with her estranged husband, court records show.
Oh, I'm beginning to think this kid didn't have the best home life.
She had also been arrested in November on suspicion of possessing small amounts of methamphetamine, fentanyl and muscle relaxants, according to arrest warrants. But court records indicate that she was not charged with drug possession.
Fuckin' shit.
It's the manifestation and sequela of the diseases of despair and trauma. We made this mess, we can clean it up. Thing is, it's not going to be a McDrive through effort from someone else. It's going to be all of us, working very hard together, on every level and every ability, for a long time. Forever, if we want to keep the progress.
Man, someone at the school really dropped the ball if this is true.
Blows my goddamn mind. We'll jail everyone involved in the sale of the gun but won't stop the sale. Just a little bit of regulation. No one needs an ar-15 with a high capacity magazine. NO ONE, except the armed forces. I know this'll get gun nuts lathered up but it's true. Stop making guns your whole personality
It's a standard capacity mag, it's not what any military uses. It's a plastic semi-auto rifle, nothing more. It's not magically more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle.
Instead of focusing political capital on trying to ban something that's not going to magically reduce the number of firearm deaths in this country, we should be pushing for single payer, Ending the war on drugs, ubi, fixing our school system, making sure everyone has access to housing and food. There is so much we can do to reduce not only gun violence but all violence vs another awb which doesn't work.
Oh it's not that bad, what about etc etc.
Be careful, you dont want to be too common sense or you will be labeled a right wing idealogue. People fail to realize that criminals will find a way every time. They dont care about gun laws any more than any other law. These people would rather bandaid the issue than address what is pushing kids to want to shoot up their peers. Its the video games cause violence argument all over again.
I'd be happier seeing the whole world's armed services armed with food, medical supplies, vaccinations (not weird ones used to commit atrocities). It's a longer term dream, to manifest, we've got to start from where we are.