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Full title: Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version "to access a decade-old, discontinued video game"

Ubisoft's lawyers have responded to a class action lawsuit over the shutdown of The Crew, arguing that it was always clear that you didn't own the game and calling for a dismissal of the case outright.

The class action was filed in November 2024, and Ubisoft's response came in February 2025, though it's only come to the public's attention now courtesy of Polygon. The full response from Ubisoft attorney Steven A. Marenberg picks apart the claims of plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu piece by piece, but the most common refrain is that The Crew's box made clear both that the game required an internet connection and that Ubisoft retained the right to revoke access "to one or more specific online features" with a 30-day notice at its own discretion.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Tell you what customers absolutely can do: decide to stop doing business with you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

The way of the future....VCRs went away. DVDRs went away, replaced with DVRs and membership streaming, where you can "buy" a movie on Amazon Prime, but if they lose the rights to the movie, so do you - oh well. Your Tesla will brick, if Elon gets mad at you, and your video games will stop working if "the man" unplugs the server. Oh, and dont get caught pulling out your old dusty VCR to record the Super Bowl to watch later....thats a copyright violation. The oligarchs want to make sure the plebes eventually own nothing. If the masters can take it all away, the peasants will do what they're told, be quiet about it, and smile when in sight of the masters.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

EU cutizens can sign European Citizens' Initiative that aims to prevent publishers using killswitches to permanently disable games. If it gets 1M signatures, it will be discussed in European Comission.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

Things like this make it really easy for me to not buy anything from Ubisoft.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I've been avoiding Ubisoft games for quite some time. And blizzard. And a handful of other studios because of these bullshit shenanigans.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

The use of the words 'buy', "own" or 'purchase' in connection with DRM rental should be an international felony, and grounds for immediate break-up of businesses that use them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They’re right but it would be great if companies had to allow self hosting for products they make money from

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Oh look. Yet another reason to continue my Ubisoft boycott.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Literally just let people host private servers. It worked fine for decades, and still does.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And this is exactly why Ubisoft is dying. Good riddance.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

"Nobody reads those EULAs, and the Defendant knows that. Therefore, the Defendant cannot hide behind the EULA as a shield because the Prosecution, having clicked Agree without being required to confirm that they read through the terms, could not have possibly known what they were agreeing to."

"If you are what you agree to, your Honor, then my clients are an unknown spaghetti of legal mumbo jumbo."

"No further remarks, your Honor."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I would relish a lawsuit against EULAs where the defendant somehow sends the prosecutor a EULA in a software package that declares that they automatically lose the lawsuit by clicking Agree.

It would really hammer in the point that fucking NOBODY reads this shit.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

I think someone calculated the time it would take to read every single one you're expected to agree with in normal every day life, and it worked out to needing 76 work days to read everything you "agree" to in a typical year.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago

Hey Ubisoft, you can't complain when I pirate your stupid games, because there's nothing to own apparently.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

What I love about being a broke bitch retro gamer is that I own my games. I have a Tetris cartridge that is older than I am and still works. The batteries on some of my GB and GBA carts have died, but that’s something I can fix. No one can send a stealth update to my Sega Genesis that forces me to create on an account to play or even bricks it somehow. There’s no room for human shit behavior, just a war against the realities of mechanical decay. (And it’s easy to rip ROMs in case of the inevitable.)

Older generations of gaming are well preserved. I don’t think the past ten years or the future will be. “Games as a service” is too big a draw - the goal is to turn everything into a subscription model because why make money once when you can make it forever?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When Ubisoft introduced always online DRM with AC2, I was out. It's nice with the Internet how much being anti-Ubisoft has become common enough to be unsurprising

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I have the fucking disc to prove I do own it, you arseholes.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

This is why I just pirate games from big developers. They’re fuckers so fuck them anyway.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

You're right, Ubisoft. I CAN'T complain about not owning the game. I never bought it. You know.....because it's an Ubisoft game!

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