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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Authoritarian is a sliding target that can just apply to anything with a government

Anarchists: Yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It is so frustrating how often they get it right and then completely wrong!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cowbee is a fucking loser, he's not a Marxist he's a Stalinist who is embarrased of their own beleifs about human rights.

One of the worst accounts i keep seeing around the fediverse.

Davel is another fascist sympathizer who brigades threads about tankies to defend them because his home instance is defederated and dying because it's a tankie instance.

They repeat real CCP propaganda and orginize their posts like Chinese troll farms do.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Most braindead shit from that instance

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I see you haven't been on there recently

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most braindead shit from that instance... so far!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do they have a tankie flair?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's just a tag, most UIs and apps support some form of tagging, makes it really easy to identify how someone is going to interact with you.

Some UIs are even fancier and give you stats on how your up/down votes are with a given user. So if you have primarily negative interactions with someone, it'll start telling you that you have a mostly negative voting ratio

Afaik, Lemmy has not yet implemented actual comm-defined flairs like Reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

So you added the tag? That makes a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, "thought terminating cliché" is now the thought terminating cliché.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Astronaut, gun, astronaut.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Conveniently, there is no word that is Non-Problematic to describe horrific regimes which disappear, murder, and enslave vast portions of their populations in service to imperialist aims and the privilege of a small elite (if that elite wears red). Press F to pay respects 😔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Red Fascism?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

There has to be an unproblematic word for it. Maybe Pol Pot was girlbossing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

To be fair The thing with the red scare do be kinda true. People are still not able to differentiate between communism and authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Can you blame them? Show me communism which also wasn't authoritarian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well i can't blame people for believing it at first, because currently there was only authoritarian communism which has also been used to fuel the red scare. But I devinetively can blame people for not educating themselves further and continuing to belief the propaganda they got spoonfed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

I know what communism stands for, but anyone who believes it can work and doesn't devolve into authoritarian regime pretty much immediately is naive.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And tankies make that worse. Because they are literally a caricature of the strawman used by red scare tactics.

They have basically nothing to do with Marxism in substance. They are pretty much authoritarians who support varying forms of state capitalism, but use Leftist language.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Issue is, the red scare thing is also criticized those regimes in a way that it wouldn't be applicable to capitalism, and they either try to redefine authoritarianism to exclude capitalist leaders (including CEOs), or try to turn the term "strongman leader" into a euphemism for "authoritarian leaders we approve".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What would we do without Cowbee using encyclopedic knowledge of theory to simp for dictators?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

The world would be so devoid of simp, that's horrible.