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One of the biggest issues that's plagued the Nintendo Switch since its launch in 2017 is stick drift. In fact, Nintendo faced several lawsuits as a result of the issue, with an ex-repair supervisor previously stating that the workload to fix drifting Joy-Con was "very stressful".

Now, while we can acknowledge that Nintendo has undoubtedly been working hard behind the scenes to mitigate the issue for the upcoming Switch 2, we're nevertheless disheartened to confirm that the Joy-Con 2's joysticks will not be Hall Effect.

This comes via our interview with Nintendo of America's Nate Bihldorff, who outright confirmed the exclusion. Notably, he didn't specify whether or not the Pro Controller would include Hall Effect sticks, but the way in which he quickly deflects onto another topic probably implies that it won't:

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't think I've ever been this disinterested in a Nintendo console and I bought the WiiU. So far we have:

  • Insane price tags: 80$ to buy games digitally? And 90$ for physical? This isn't how you stop piracy, it's how you start it.
  • The tech demo costs money. Why? Sure, they explained why. Just not very well.
  • That Nintendo-Denuvo deal from 2023 is still a thing. Thankfully, no games on the Switch have implemented Denuvo. With the Switch 2 coming out, I'm not certain this will remain the case.
  • Far as I can tell, they did next to nothing to fix the joycon drift. The one big problem with the Switch 1.

Also, the launch titles are kind of sparse. Most are rehashes of existing Switch 1 games, with two or three exceptions. Not for me, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel like that with a lot of gaming, though. It feels like a lot of the industry has progressed where AAA gaming isn't worth it while A and AA games are just as, if not more, entertaining.

It feels more like Nintendo is building the engine for the next decade, but I'm still happy with last decade's engine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

seems to me like AAA games always were about demonstrating new game technologies, showcasing a new graphics engine or something, not about entertaining/fun games. Like that Crysis franchise from around 2010, everyone wanted to have a pc that could play crysis, but nobody actually wanted to play that game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

AAA used to be about creating fun games. The Super Mario and Mario Kart games, for instance, are AAA games.

It just happens to be that you can create a lot of complex and fun games today without pushing the edge of technology. That wasn't always the case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At least 1 is a rehash of an N64 game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Which one is that? Mario Kart?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

How else would they sell you new joycons every 2 years for 80 bucks a piece ?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, your language is set to German (Deutsch) so I didn't see your comment until I selected German in my languages too. Unsure if you intended this as your comment is English

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Thanks for the heads up ! I had no idea (and can't find where the settings for this are ^ ^ ^' )

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

That depends on the client you use. If you just use the website it's right under the text field.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

It should be in your profile settings! Idk if you're using an app but if you visit the web app you should be able to find it in your settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Nintendo has free replacement for bad Joycons for life. It’s not some planned obsolescence conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm sure a lot of customers don't go through the hassle of having Nintendo replace their controller or simply don't know about the policy and just buy a new one.

They did replacement for the original Switch, not sure if it will still be the case for the new one. Besides, there is no way they don't know about hall effect sticks, yet they went with the older tech. Which means they made a business decision based on what would make them the more money, and not what would be the most resilient parts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

they dont offer that here...

obligatory fight club scene https://youtu.be/SiB8GVMNJkE

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

This doesn't hold true for every country though. I'm pretty sure that here in Austria they won't replace/repair my Joycons for free.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And the process of dealing with it sucks ass. You’re probably more likely to buy at least one second set of joycons while you wait forever for them to replace your originals.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Of course they rather reinvent the wheel. They are a corporation, they like to spend millions reinventing stuff that has already been fixed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

They reinvent it to patent it so no one else copies them

Which is fucking bullshit

Nintendo should be banned from patent offices

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

What a surprise... 🙄 The only way Nintendo has worked hard to 'mitigate the issue' and still hasn't landed on Hall Effect as the answer is if they're purposefully keeping shit components but want them to be just good enough for them to not get sued.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

outright confirmed the exclusion [...] Notably, he didn't specify whether or not

Yeah, that's what "outright" means all right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He confirmed the joycons are not hall effect, but didn't specify whether the pro controller is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly wasn't expecting them to use Hall Effect in the first place (have any consoles actually had those in recent years?) But let's be real, this is also the least of the switch 2's problems. Everything around this console is way too damn expensive. The only thing that's priced reasonably (imo atleast) is the actual console itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I've luckily pre-ordered one with Mario kart World bundle for £430 - which I agree (with a inflation) is not ridiculous in itself. I've been waiting for 2 years as I never got the original switch and thought I'd wait for the all new model with backward compatibility..

However I am concerned about future game costs and controllers/accessories. Likely will be looking for preowneed/sale/3rd party. The £10 demo is also a big red flag and I hope doesn't set the tone for a Wiiu like story.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All my joycons have drift, and I have several sets. I'm not touching a switch 2 because of that, and the insane cost of games. Nintendo needs to make better hardware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Nintendo has free repair on joycon stick drift be sure to use it. You will lose your joycons for a few weeks so do not send them all at once.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Switch 1 was a massive disappointment to me. Same with the titles. Not worth it at all.

Therefore I am sitting out this time and I doubt I’ll be back.

Steam deck is better.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago