China has the advantage that they still have the rest of the world to make business with.
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We buy a LOT more from China than they buy from us. In a protracted trade war, we will lose badly.
I honestly never thought I’d be rooting for the PRC over the USA… but here we are.
These are very fucking weird times, fellow meatbags.
This makes no sense bro. At least the US has a potential path to return to a different president/congress in 4 years, since it has a constitution that grant rights to everyone.
Bold of you to assume that we’ll actually have elections in 2028, much less fair ones.
Yeah but turning China into a democracy will be harder than returning the US to what it has been, a constitutional law-based society.
Based simply off of your naïveté, I feel like you don’t live here, and that you don’t understand what’s happening here, or the context of what led us to where we are now.
Yeah I am a concerned euro watching across the Atlantic. But the ideals of your founding fathers live on in your constitution and legislative branch, which can get the system back on track, right?
Lmfao have you seen how feckless our “opposition” party is, and how enthusiastically the regime party is enabling orangeboi?
I’m legit expecting the balkanization of the US in a few years. I’m not exaggerating. I was born here, grew up here, and live here. I’m starting to lay some groundwork for short-notice emigration to Europe. Our courts and legislature are effectively captured by the fascists at this point, who are also in charge of the executive branch. This place is falling apart in a meaningful way, and it’s going to get a LOT worse before it gets better - if it even can get better, and I’m not convinced it can.
China will kick the Tariff woke-ism out of Trump
It's so weird hoping that China tears America a new ass hole.
Fuck him up Xi.
It feels a bit like the fat bully in the playground picking a fight with the weird asian kid who is actually a kung fu black belt.
It might shock Trump to learn that most of the shit American's like to buy comes from other countries, and no one really likes to buy American stuff. Wild.
Pooh vs Poo
China will squeeze the Tariff-wokism out of Trump.
Except the fat bully doesn’t get punished. Just a significant number of people who voted for him, and even more who didn’t. Too bad we can’t just pay tariffs based on political party.
Oh, I think we should just stop buying things.
Like, altogether.
Lets hit a great depression, and let THAT be trumps legacy. Killing over 1 million americans intentionally, and crashing the global economy intentionally.
But that’s not what he cares about. It’s still not hurting him.
Except he does care about his reputation. It is all he cares about. He is just wrong about what helps it.
He will go down as the dumbest and weakest President ever. He cares. But without a ghost of Presidents past intervention, he will not believe it. He feels tough right now and, I believe, honestly thinks he is right on tariffs. He is wrong and history will record it so, but he really believes it.
Ooooooooh, you know what we should do? We should wait until 2028 and then forget he ever existed.
Like he'll be saying some thing on a tv show. And then the host will be like "I'm sorry.....WHO are you?" And he's like "C'mon, it's me!" And the host is like "that doesn't help" "I'm donald trump!" "Where would I know you from?" "DONALD TRUMP!!!" "Yes, I heard your name, I just haven't heard what project you're promoting."
OMG. That is the most brilliant thing ever. I normally don’t get excited but that would be so good. Better than prison.
Yeah. We're all on board this wild ride and none of us are experts, but I really do have a strong suspicion that this thing is going to go real bad for Trump in a very meaningful way.
It's not just like the time he said whatever stupid thing. He's really fucked everyone for no reason and even his supporters are going to judge him harshly when they lose their jobs and everything costs twice as much.
Zero things will happen to him unless he goes to jail for life or is killed. Other than those two, he is untouchable…. Sadly.
I suspect you might be underestimating the fall out.
Unemployment will increase. The cost of everyday items will increase significantly. There may be shortages of foodstuffs.
These aren't intangible gloomy pessimistic "what ifs", but rather predictions shared by most experts.
When a significant portion of the population is unable to feed themselves they will become ungovernable.
Trump is incapable of backing down on anything ever. He just doubles down. Always. He's doing it this very moment with China and their 100% tariffs.
What else can possibly be the outcome of having an ungovernable population and a POTUS incapable of addressing the problem?
NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO HIM
[ ] Nothing
[ ] Death
[ ] Life in prison
even his supporters are going to judge him harshly when they lose their jobs and everything costs twice as much
This is where you got it wrong, his accolytes are in this as a matter of faith, if the orange cunt makes them lose their job, he only needs to blame "the woke" and they will believe it.
China must send the US to the great depression era all over again and even then, I'm not sure the magats will stop voting for him
This whole situation is just embarrassing and scary, as is the entire Trump presidency, but I'd like to point out that the US exports a fuckton of goods and services around the world. At least, the US used to export a fuckton of goods and services around the world.
The US’s largest “share” of exports to china vs other countries are soybeans and jet engines. China has spent the past decade and a half working to diversify their imports so this exact thing wouldn’t destroy their economy.
Yeah. I'm hard pressed to think of any physical goods of American origin that I would have in my home. I have noticed grapes and mandarines from the US at the supermarket but definitely no household items.
You're right about services, like digital products and software. In my own personal case there isn't much but I don't think I'm indicative of Australians generally.
I think this is why the Australian government chose not to implement tariffs. We buy American things like airplanes and microsoft windows. There's no substitute for them locally so what would be the point of a tariff ?
I was thinking about buying a Schiit headphone amplifier (no joke on the name!), now the USA can get focked.
America experiencing it's own Moss from the IT Crowd's Fire Extinguisher made in Britain moment.
I quite like your glasses.
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China is very much aware that this is its moment. Position itself as an alternative to Trump’s chaos that isn’t afraid of him and offers a different path.
Militarily, China is outmatched by a wide margin, but combine economic strategy with diplomacy in the face of a superior rival’s extreme, unforced mistakes, and China is seeing a path to win the 21st century without having to fight.
Nukes evens the playing field. US don't even dare touch tiny nuclear armed Nkorea. china already said they will fight to the end.
No, there will absolutely be a fight.
The moment Trump fully realizes how incredibly he's lost, he will immediate switch to military threats to save face.
He has no choice, it's one thing if the American economy collapses, but his ego is at stake here!
Not gonna lie, kind of rooting for China here
But China will not root for you. It follows its own interests and gives a shit about human rights. It is no better than what USA has become. It just seems to be more stable and reasonable.
China is more stable and reasonable. Normally, the problem with China is that they are authoritarian despots. In the current situation, the US is matching them on the authoritarian despot front. So, China wins by being more stable and reasonable.
Moving away from doing business with China is a problem that has to be solved in the next ten year. Moving away from the US needs to happen now.
True. Also China will start a war in the next few years with great likelihood.
More likely US and russia will start a war soon.
I dont think russia can handle another serious war. But who knows.
I can not see any logic in the usa under trump. So from my point of view anything is possible.
He means that the US and Russia will start a war as allies. With the backing of the US military, you can invade anybody you want.
Oh... yeah. I will never understand why people follow and support trump.
Some of you might lose jobs, home and even die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to take.
How can they ? Trump has cancelled negotiations.
Anyway, he'll just change his mind tomorrow. Or sign an agreement and then renege on it.
GO CHINA GO!!!
On the long term, the US won't work without Chinese products and markets. It will not be funny for China, but it will seriously hurt the US.
Whole world, including island with only penguins, should join China on this.
The difference is that in china, they see tarifs crisis as an opportunity.
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