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The U.S. deported 238 Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador’s notorious CECOT prison using the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

Internal documents show 75% had no known criminal record. Some, like a makeup artist and a soccer player, had pending asylum claims.

The Trump administration claimed links to the Tren de Aragua gang, citing tattoos and social media, but lawyers and experts say evidence is flimsy.

Despite a court order to halt the deportation, flights proceeded. Critics warn the move bypasses due process and violates international human rights standards.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I feel like not enough people are outraged about spending $6 million taxpayer dollars to El Salvador for these "prisoners" either. Where is the government efficiency?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Trump should be charged with crimes against humanity

[–] [email protected] 51 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What you’re seeing is a display of pure power. A flex of totally unchecked authority.

The next ones to join could be you and your family, and there’s little to nothing that you can do about it. Without due process, who used to say they are not all perfectly legitimate US citizens?

I suggest putting on some weight. We’re going to need it in the work camps.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

We are going to see at midnight tonight how unchecked the power is.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/04/nx-s1-5352448/judge-orders-the-trump-administration-to-return-man-who-was-mistakenly-deported-el-salvador

My understanding of what's going on here... And admittedly, the Trump administration is moving very fast, the courts are not moving fast enough. However that's kind of the way the courts have always worked. It feels like the Trump administration is trying to exploit this.

However, if that man is not returned by midnight, my assumption is that there will be a Patsy that will be held in contempt of court.

So we are now in a game theory square

The man returns, the man does not return.

Someone is punished, no one is punished.

Ideally, by this time tomorrow that man is returned and someone is punished.

The worst case scenario is that by midnight tonight that man is not returned and no one is punished. If that happens we are in a very dark space.

All three other alternatives offer hope, with the one square I mentioned actually being a very good sign in general despite the current horrors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

USSC blocked it, so welcome to the dark side.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's insufficient to punish "someone", because that person is likely just a patsy, as you suggest.

What I would like to see is the judge asking the lowest person on the rung, under oath, "Who ordered this? Tell me or I'll hold you in contempt", and then when that person answers they ask the named person the same question, until they find someone who actually matters, and hold them in contempt until the man is returned. (And, hold them directly responsible for the condition the man is returned in).

The President may be immune from the consequences of his actions, but people serving under him are not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Oh I agree, the patsy is the first domino, though. The dominos get larger as they continue to fall, ideally. As you put it.

Things are dark but there is not yet an absence of light.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Convincing all the little stooges that they won’t be protected is the only way to course correct from this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

We need to convince them the only way they will be protected is to rat out their bosses. (And then, actually protect them from the brownshirts.)

[–] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

....didn't Germany do something similar to this in 1935-6? just checking to see if history is doing that repeating thing...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Rhyming here, but yeah, basically.

They started deporting and when countries stopped taking the "undesirables", they concentrated them in a few camps and then they decided that killing them was the same as keeping them alive.

We're not there yet, but this administration just rhymed "Nazi" with "Natsi" thinking they were clever by using the phonetic pronunciation and nobody would notice.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago

We're not there yet, but this administration just rhymed "Nazi" with "Natsi"

They rhymed Nazi with Nat-C (Nationalist Christian)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 prisoners. The largest, Angola, LA, holds over 8000.

Guantanamo Bay, located in CUBA (WTF?), currently holds about 120. They are now building a facility there, that will hold 30,000 prisoners. That's nearly 4 times our largest prison, which is about 8 times larger than average.

The question is: Who do they intend to put in that new facility, which is far from any oversight by the media or the courts. It's in fucking Cuba, which is controlled by...well, you get it.

I was a victim of the recent Reddit bloodbath, with a 12 year/ 900K+ karma account. Clearly, they reviewed my high-volume posting account, and they know how I feel about them, and the punishments they have earned. I expect that at some point, there is a pretty good chance I'll be getting a free vacation to Cuba.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

All of them should be immediately eligible for US citizenship, assuming any of them want it at this point. Along with getting a shit ton of money to try to heal from this. How the fuck can this possibly be made right, even if every single victim of this is removed from the prison?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Giving them US citizenship is like giving disgruntled customers a credit to use at the same store.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

If those customers lived at and had families at the store, yeah. If they still want citizenship at this point they should get it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

If I was in the leadership of Tren de Aragua gang I would start incentivising the use of svastica, iron cross. The number of people with these tattoos would clearly be part of the gang, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I hope we get them back all unharmed and I hope this takes down the Trump presidency.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago