A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

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Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Oh no, they defederated from Zionists, I hate that!" said nobody ever with the slightest knowledge of Zionism

[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, dbzer0 has not yet provided a consistent definition of Zionism, which is why they always resort to the broadest possible interpretation. As a result, it is essentially impossible to differentiate between the IDF and feddit.org (or at least their ideology), which is obviously stupid, but has the advantage of simplicity. One can simply throw the word around and everyone nods dutifully.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It is believing that the foreign jews had the right to come to Palestine, force a state on the local people which included jews then ethenically cleansing 850k of them. It is also when you reject a one state solution becsuse you believe it should always be a jewish state rather than a state with equal rights for everybody. What happen if after several centuries arab population of Israel bypass the jewish population?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The post title referenfes the "Nazi bar" problem. Not every feddit user is a raging Zionist, but not banning obviously Zionist users makes it a space not worth belonging to or interacting with. Zionism is a dangerous ideology and it should be kept away from as many people as possible.

[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you consider to be an example of “obvious Zionism” on feddit?

[+] Riverside@reddthat.com -6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Plenty of modlog evidence in the db0 post to discuss defedding:

Calling Hamas "terrorists" is Zionist propaganda.

[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's wrong with calling Hamas terrorists? They have randomly but deliberately killed innocent people. How else would you describe that?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

See? This is why they defed you. You're carrying water for Zionists by saying that legitimate defense against an occupying nation is terrorism.

[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Killing innocent people is never a legitimate defense. Actually, it is no defense at all, because these innocent people did nothing to Gaza or Hamas.

An anarchist instance that chooses an authoritarian, Islamist, and reactionary organization as the hill on which it wants to die. It makes you want to bang your head against the table. What I see this much more as is a case of double standards. Because the IDF, which also kills innocent people, makes the same argument. "Oh, it's just defense."

You still haven't explained what is Zionist about calling Hamas Terrorist. You simply don't like my opinion about it, so you stick that label on it. It's intellectually lazy because it saves you from having to argue and allows you to rely solely on virtue signaling.