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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 68 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Flight crews cannot declare a passenger dead. Therefore it is a medical emergency until a qualified medical professional does so. A physician on board might do so, but that gets muddy real quick legally.

Also, the diversion for a likely dead person isn’t for the dead person, it’s for the family that would sue the airline for carrying on for however long to the destination. They’d argue whether or not the person might have had a chance had they diverted. So legally and financially an airline will try to get seriously ill or potentially dead people off the plane as soon as practical.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 29 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Can't they just make sure they are dead? Put a plastic bag on their head or something? If there's an air marshal on the flight they might have a gun. That would resolve any doubts about their chances real quick.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They've put a whole lot of effort into making those things safe and you're here trying to make them murder vehicles??

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They are not that safe if people still die in them...

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

Well, people do die... Its pretty rare for things to go wrong in planes. In the context of this post it seems quite unrelated

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What if the person is Rasputin?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Check his ID and make sure he's not.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

A doctor AND a lawyer, impressive

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

even if the head isn't attached on the body anymore?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Might vary by location, UK guidelines:

Obvious examples that may not require the attendance of a medical professional to pronounce death would be a decapitated or badly decomposed body, multiple body disruptive trauma, where a body is severely burnt or has been subjected to prolonged submersion or has been predated by animals (where the body is missing essential parts).

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure there are many opportunities for these cases in a flight, but you never know…

[–] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I sat next to a cougar on my last flight, and she destroyed my heart.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

I think minced by the engine counts

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I was an EMT and we were taught you do CPR until pronouncement, except if there's obvious signs of mortality, of which decapitation is one. Livor/rigor mortis. Shoes off. All obvious signs of mortality.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I was once told by an EMT that you do CPR unless the spine is clearly severed in any place. Basically the person doesn't have to be cut in half at the neck. Anywhere above legs counts.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago

Different folks, different policies and procedures. Ours are similar, barring the shoes. We need socks off or hope remains.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

“Yet.”

January was pretty fucking mental for a lot of us.