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‘What the f*ck did you do?!’ Video contradicts DHS claims about killing of Alex Pretti
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ICE murdered that man.
From here we have two paths:
One: Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
Two: All out civil war.
We will not let ICE, Trump or any of these Nazis complete their agenda.
There's a third option: people don't resist and the regime does whatever it wants.
So far we've chosen that option.
The third option is what I expect from years of "American exceptionalism" brainwashing.
Ironically that's how things went so wrong in Russia, too.
Germany too. Dont Be A Sucker should be alll over social media
I expect them to act smug and talk about the midterms.
100% - You're suggesting to fight the U.S. Military in power. History has shown that nobody "wins" against the American Military. (inb4 some obscure factoid). Even in Vietnam or Afghanistan, it was just destruction - nobody won anything except the investors.
There's 0 leadership down in the trenches too. So ontop of suggesting to fight the U.S. Military, you're suggesting to do so as unorganized. That's going to be easily spun by media as terrorist cells. Sure, they're throwing around "domestic terrorist" already, but it hits differently when they only see 1 side dying. Once there are actual gunfights in the street is when they can rally support from their base for actual action.
We have to wait for midterms. There's been so much bad press regarding Trumps 2nd term that regaining control of the Senate is doable, albeit difficult. In the chance that the Senate is held, then there's a chance to restore order and bring people to justice. Midterms is going to be impossible to avoid for those who participate so it's going to be impossible to avoid the onslaught of bullshit that ensues and will be a wake up call for the people not on Lemmy (or Reddit) and still on Facebook or X (Boomers).
Personally, I think a Civil War in inevitable. I don't think the Trump Admins are going to recede power. I don't think Dems are going to get a majority in the Senate, and I think things are going to get worse. That being said, Midterms is a chance to find leadership and a chance for actual States to break out of this charade.
And the "terrorist" label might also be pretext for the government to de-bank the people they accuse.
I want to believe that the killing of Good and Pretti will be a turning point…but I’m a middle aged American who has developed some cynicism about my fellow countrymen…
Ah, the good ol' "Why are they not doing anything about this".
That would be pretti goode. I hope that happens
Glad I could fix that for you.
How's that going so far? You have a 34 time convicted felon for a president sending his fascist goon squads out to murder people in the streets and none of your precious fucking lawyers have done jack shit about it.
Oh, well next time you're wrong by someone and dont immediately get justice; you're absolutely justified jumping to violence... /s
Violence is always justified against fascists; it is self defense.
Violence without organization and strategy is counterproductive.
I may agree with you if over the past 5 years the term "fascist" hadn't been deluted more than a dive bar's $0.50 draft beer.
These are armed, masked government goons slaughtering civilians in the streets in a widespread terror campaign orchestrated by your criminal warlord president wherein various people labeled "undesirables" by your fascist government are disappeared to concentration camps and "deported" to prisons in other countries they have no connection to.
If Hell existed, you would meet all your German pals in the deepest, darkest, coldest layer.
10/10 exaggeration of the circumstances; and the situations you're describing are being exasperated by the population illegal obstructing legal law enforcement operations. You're making it sound like Vlad the Impaler raised Hitler and his Nazi army from the dead and they're roaming the streets eating liberal babies.
Again, your time to fight the government is in the courts. If you want change, fight them in the courts. If you want violence and conflict then keep up the obstruction.
There is no exaggeration, it is a sober recount of the facts of the situation we're currently in. This is how history will record this period, and you will be one of the many nameless fascists condemned by future generations.
It's not sober at all, it's an incredibly recent, heated, emotional take as per usual on these hyper political issues.
The emotional charge is more responsibility for these terrible occurances than policy or enforcement.
I've been telling you that Trump is a fascist who wants to do this shit since 2015. Nothing recent about it, you're just a fascist.
That word doesn't mean anything anymore, you've run it into the ground.
You fucking wish. This smarmy bullshit isn't going to save you when our turn comes.
Oof, ain't that the sad state of affairs of American politics in a nutshell.
I hope you don't expect that cycle to end when your turn ends.
If you think that murdering people in the street is just a "political issue" then wow....enjoy hell
I don't need to worry, there is no hell, or Santa Claus, or Easter Bunny. If you swallow a watermelon seed it won't grow in your stomach.
I mean if you dress up in a KKK costume and walk through the Bronx, something very bad is probably going to happen to you. Some may even call it murder, but that doesn't mean you were innocent as a choir boy.
And it absolutely is a political issues, we have people at the local, state, and federal level all escalating due to the idea that backing down is precieved as weakness. If any of those levels de-escalated none of this would have happened. No one deserved to get killed here, but no one is totally innocent.
Open your fucking eyes
They are my guy. They're just not looking through your warped glasses of protecting illegal immigrants from being lawfully removed from the county.
I like your energy, i wish more people had it
I'm just sick and tired of this shit. I'm also sick and tired of what's happening to Lemmy. The bigger it gets, the shittier the mods.
It's different when they are actively murdering us. This is an urgent crisis, imagine a violent gang was roaming and blatantly murdering people and abducting children in a city and the government called them heroes? And a decent amount of the local police are friends with that gang. Courts and trials are important also but we need to use whatever means we have to prevent or slow the killing if we have the ability to.
No one is actively murdering you when you're the one creating the aggressive situations. Stop obstructing law enforcement officers, it's dangerous and illegal. Fight them in court.
Immigrants are dying and being abused in camps, and being shot and beaten when apprehened, which is why people are filming them, Ranee Good and Alex Pretti weren't obstructing or creating an aggressive situation, and anyone who suggests they were can go fuck themselves to hell.
Were creating a hostile situation where ICE agents are forced to play defensive crowd control rather than doing their job. It's a terrible situation, especially Petti who apparently did nothing but be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but they contributed to their own harm.
If you take your convertible into a bad neighborhood and leave the keys on the dashboard; don't ask me to feel bad when it gets stolen.
Why would I when the left is already doing a fine job.
They don't submit to the courts authority and nobody is able to force them to, so no
They absolutely do submit to the court. There are court hearings going on right now about withdrawing ICE from Minneapolis.
Respectfully, that's an outcome, not a path to get there.
The MAGA shitheads won't just give up and let themselves be prosecuted. They won't stop appointing judges, they won't stop cheating on elections, they won't stop manipulating media, and they won't stop harassing, intimidating, and killing their opposition until someone makes them.
Military coup. The only way a civil war is successful is if the military are on the side of the people. The most important of which would be the USN and USAF Strategic Forces. A prolonged ground war is only won by sea, air, and nuclear forces. More specifically nuclear forces in the hands of said military who will NOT use them on our own land.
It will present a serious challenge with all the Pentagon purges. But the majority of Flag and Line officers are from West Point, Annapolis, and Maxwell. It's unlikely most side with Trump (for now). The real trick will hinge on the NCOs, as the US Military is predominantly a middle-out force, and senior NCOs hold the bulk of our service members' respect. What they decide to do in the majority will dictate the outcome of a civil war. One NG commander already stated publicly he will order his soldiers to protect protesters from ICE agents. There is a small chance.
Ideally the next time President Trump boards Marine 1 he's taken into custody at a military base with a large Delta, Rangers, or NG presence to subdue USSS agents. With a Federal Judge, Vance, Speaker Johnson, and Grassley in tow. Invoke 25 or Martial Law, and go down the line of succession until someone takes the oath. This is highly unlikely though. A full impeachment is more likely, but a lot of people will need to for die before it will happen.
It's either that or The Man in The High Castle. The American Fourth Reich.
That's uhhh, not how that works. You can't hold ground with bombs and missiles. And the Army is absolutely capable of holding ground against bombs and missiles. Nukes are, obviously, another story.
Naw you're right, but I only meant that the most critical parts of our military we would need on our side are USN/USAF. While you are correct the US Army would be the most ideal force to hold land, this task could also be completed by NG or insurgency BLUFOR. But yeah obviously the Army would be more successful and have more ass like AH-64s, MBTs, and IFVs and professional soldiers trained in occupation.
But you cannot secure additional land and project force without sea and air superiority. I'd also add USAF's Cyber Command authority as well (I'm not sure if USSF has fully adopted this role yet). I'm also not sure which branch is doing the most work in drone tech, but I'd imagine it would have to be either USAF or USN as we've seen in Ukraine, this will also be a major factor in modern, mechanized warfare.
And yeah you're also correct, ultimately none of this matters if our Strategic Forces are in the wrong hands. Nuclear remains the "nuclear" option.
That would undoubtedly be part of said coup. Giving them the opportunity to swear the oath to the Constitution does that. Note that the key provision in the line of succession is a heartbeat.
The French didn't invent the guillotine for show.
For that you need some power. Effectively in other countries like Ukraine, the economic nobility (i.e billionaires) comes to the rescue. The problem is that it seems that the economic nobility has built a golem they no longer control but are doubling down on controlling it.
In this case you also need some power backing it. Unless you are Cuba or some shithole like the Russian Empire in 1917.
My marvel influenced child, the only way the society pushes back with these cards is internal sabotage.
Internal sabotage you say?
I’d like to subscribe to your news letter, sir. Count me in
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