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Expert Who Ran Simulations on 'How Civil Wars Start' Warns Minnesota Is Exactly What It Looks Like (www.commondreams.org)

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Experts are warning that the Trump administration's ongoing crackdown in Minnesota could quickly get out of hand and could even result in a second US civil war.

Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, wrote in a Wednesday column published by the Guardian that she and her colleagues at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) conducted a tabletop exercise in October 2024 that simulated potential outcomes if a US president were to carry out law enforcement operations similar to the ones being conducted by the Trump administration with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers in Minnesota.

"In that exercise, a president carried out a highly unpopular law-enforcement operation in Philadelphia and attempted to federalize the Pennsylvania’s National Guard," Finkelstein explained. "When the governor resisted and the guard remained loyal to the state, the president deployed active-duty troops, resulting in an armed conflict between state and federal forces."

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They already said this is the second American Revolution that will be bloodless if the left allows it to be. They have already declared war in July 2024. For fucks sake! That was the heritage foundation! They are running the fucking government now!

Wake the fuck up already. Quit lecturing and pay the fuck attention!

You’re not wrong about community but you’re wrong to play down the fact they have already declared war on the United States!

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

This is some internet-brain panic, if you think it's "lecturing" you really need to go outside and spend time with the vast majority of America who are in their own states who have their own agendas and laws in play. The ICE thing is happening in isolated areas with the intention of making people like you say things like this:

"they have already declared war on the United States!"

I'm not saying it's not bad, I'm saying focus for fuck's sake. There is no revolution happening, there is no civil war, there are politics happening and we beat it with counter-politics, no other way. Keep marching and protesting, it's helping, but it's not the solution by itself.

It's blunt and disappointing to people who want to see justice, but it's just the way it works. I promise you, it will be okay... if the US is really in the decline, which it might be, you likely won't be alive by the time states stop sending representatives to DC.