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[–] Dequei@piefed.social 103 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

What about mobile?

[–] CheerfulPassionFruit@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

As a libreworlf user, I'd have to advise some caution to regular users. A lot of sites are broken as images won't load and "fancier" web apps don't work super well either. Yes it's an easy fix, but expecting someone to go look in the config files to get an image to load is too much for a lot of people

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I haven't experienced this behavior. Can you provide a URL for me to test against.

[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Same. No issues at all.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Open netflix. Even with a lot of features turned off and DRM enabled, it will regularly fail to load any content.

And, yes, the general user will want sites like netflix to work.

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Weird, app.plex.tv, emby client, jellyfin client, netflix.com, and prime video at https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ are all currently working for me. Can you share your LibreWolf config? Maybe I can help you fix it.

[–] Dequei@piefed.social 7 points 11 hours ago

That's why I recommend Waterfox instead to non technical users

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 3 points 12 hours ago

The defaults are bad and some options are either: fully protect fingerprinting OR no protection at all

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I really like the Zen browser. It's Firefox-based, open source and privacy focused with AI removed but it's also really pretty and is built around vertical tabs

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You know what would be nice? If the group gets saved as bookmarks (maybe Session/group-name) and you could just save/load such a session as a group.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 7 points 13 hours ago

I love zen browser and its workspaces. I just cannot use any other Firefox forks anymore without it. It's more than just containers in Firefox.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ia this just desktop? No mobile?

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

For the time being yeah. I still use Firefox on mobile myself but I do hope they release a mobile version at some point

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

Ironfox on mobile of you'd like no telemetery and enhanced privacy.

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 21 hours ago

Zen browser my beloved 🥰

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

For those interested

https://librewolf.net/installation/

https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/1919

Thanks to @acockworkorange@mander.xyz for the context below.

The settings that Mozilla packaged in were the main big ones, Claude, ChatGPT etc, it didn’t look like any of them were locally hosted or even if a locally hosted model could be chose. Local AI… where the model itself and all the token are processed on either your own machine or another machine controlled by you certainly isn’t violating privacy, but as I said the choices on offer were none of these.

LibreWolf by default gets rid of anything that seeks to abuse your right to privacy, you won’t even find Google or Bing in your search engine. Naturally this will also apply to AI providers. Unfortunately, at the moment, we can’t trust Mozilla and by extension with AI items so these things were removed. That doesn’t mean you can’t install third party AI extensions.

Also you can host your own search engine for even more privacy.

https://docs.searxng.org/index.html

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The relevant bit from the second link:

The settings that Mozilla packaged in were the main big ones, Claude, ChatGPT etc, it didn't look like any of them were locally hosted or even if a locally hosted model could be chose. Local AI... where the model itself and all the token are processed on either your own machine or another machine controlled by you certainly isn't violating privacy, but as I said the choices on offer were none of these.

LibreWolf by default gets rid of anything that seeks to abuse your right to privacy, you won't even find Google or Bing in your search engine. Naturally this will also apply to AI providers. Unfortunately, at the moment, we can't trust Mozilla and by extension with AI items so these things were removed. That doesn't mean you can't install third party AI extensions.

Thanks for taking the time I didn't initially have to provide context.

Also if privacy is more of a goal you can self host a search engine with searxng

https://docs.searxng.org/index.html

[–] FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I know I'll get flak for this, but I am sticking with FireFox, because it saves my passwords.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’d recommend switching to something like Bitwarden for your passwords so you can take them with you and also switch your stuff around if you ever want to

[–] FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You CAN export them. I migrated to Ff from Chrome a while back.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You can, and they sync with your Mozilla account. I had your reasoning when using Microslop Edge and Microslop Authenticator. I set up Bitwarden now and while it's not perfect, I do prefer to have full control of my passwords.

[–] FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm going to start my own password software and call it PassWizard. I think that's a good name.

EDIT: Ah, shit. It's already taken.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

YOU SHALL NOT PASSwizard!

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've been using Librewolf for some months now. You can migrate your Firefox profile into Librewolf, that's what I did and it retained my passwords. I'm not very tech savvy but it does have some kinks, my browser clock is off I've tried tinkering with it but gave up. And especially with the Resist Fingerprinting enabled it seems to not retain my 2 factor id for sites when I ask it to remember me.

[–] ruby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

your clock is off because you have resistfingerprinting turned on, so it puts you into utc+0 to prevent tracking.

and you have to explicitly allow to save cookies for specific domains to not get logged out (check out the padlock icon in the status bar, there's an option to keep data for the domain you're on)

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago

The clock is part of their fingerprinting resistance strategy. It doesn't provide correct timezone info to sites.

[–] bootleg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Your browser clock is not off. LibreWolf, Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser etc. set your browser's reported timezone to GMT to not reveal which timezone you're actually in.

And I don't understand what you're talking about in the last sentence.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like a cookie isn't being saved, so they have to enter their 2fa every time instead of having the site trust the browser

[–] FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm going to save your comment and install it on my Linux machine when I get home.

[–] idyllic@feddit.cl 1 points 7 hours ago

Was about to say exactly this same thing....

LibreWolf here I come...

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 5 points 20 hours ago

You can switch to WaterFox and it seamlessly uses the FireFox sync to use all your passwords. Very easy drop in replacement.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

So can librewolf… its got settings!

You can still use firefox sync as well

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

it's got settings

Well yeah, Librewolf is basically nothing but settings.

Firefox settings.

Confuses me no end when people rage against Mozilla and then recommend a product that cannot exist without Mozilla.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

A software has roughly three parts: core functionality, UI, default settings. Zen does the UI part and default settings different.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Whats confusing about it? People took something that was going bad and made it good again. Thats the benefit of open source. Even if Mozilla goes closed source the already existing forks can continue

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Even if Mozilla goes closed source the already existing forks can continue

Theoretically yes, practically no. Maintaining a secure modern web engine that's up to date with - and a part of - setting web standards is something that costs tens of millions per year. Sometimes this even spills into the hundreds of millions.

Random fork projects don't have the resources to do that.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FenderStratocaster@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Waterfox are you talkin' about? Am I right?!?!?!?! lol

Waterfox? Fennec-about-it!

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I switched from Firefox to Librewolf about a month ago and it's been wonderful. I can't imagine what it would take for me to switch back to Firefox. I'll probably ride Librewolf until the project dies or gets corrupted.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think even with Librewolf you need to open the about:config page and disable browser.ml settings.

[–] Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

afaik is that fixed by now - the team strongly opposes ai and stated that they want to keep it as clean as possible

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, glad to hear that. I still check out of privacy-guarding habit.

[–] Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 23 hours ago

Fair and valid.