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[–] architect@thelemmy.club -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

*the western world power structure invaded those nations.

Why you people act like you didn’t get shit and it’s all the big bad usa would be amusing if it wasn’t so stupid.

I’ll prove how fucking stupid you are:

If the usa went around bullying everyone and never gave anything to our UN allies then that’s fucking funny… explain the global intelligence apparatus that the major western powers all chipped in for that allowed the usa to do what it did? How about all of those not USA troops all up in those same damn countries? Explain why the fuck that isn’t on your countries? Are your countries so weak they’ve been bullied into doing all of this? Explain how the fuck your tax dollars funding those same fucking wars isn’t also your faults? You think your own countries decisions didn’t bear the same rotten fruit?

Look in the fucking mirror.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

to our UN allies

The UN isn't your allies, it includes China and Russia. Clearly you don't even know the difference between NATO and the UN.

that the major western powers all chipped in

You're stronger against your enemies when you're "friends" with the biggest bully. It's just the choice which bully to befriend.

How about all of those not USA troops all up in those same damn countries

You mean all those troops forced into the wars the US started? Yeah well, that's the downside of being friends with a bully.

Are your countries so weak they’ve been bullied into doing all of this?

Kinda, yeah. During the 30s and 40s we had the same issue as the US has today. When that was over, partly due to the US, they said they would protect us in the future in exchange of us not joining communism and helping them fight it. Every country wss exhausted after the war, so we didn't have much choice. Also, Stalin wasn't great either, so it was the best deal presented. Since then the US grew to become the biggest and strongest bully, capable to strike anything anywhere withing a few hours. And they used it to get rid of people and regimes unwilling to trade their souls to the US.

And we were stuck with the biggest asshole while being too weak to stand up against a bully. Until now, when war crimes and crimes against humanity went too far.

You think your own countries decisions didn’t bear the same rotten fruit?

Oh yes, I do think we are to blame for a lot too. But that doesn't change the fact the US is far worse and a huge fucking problem right now. We know that issue, like I said, we had it in the 30s and 40s. But it doesn't help when you say "but you're bad too!" when someone calls out your country is run by elected fascists and should just fuck off and deal with it yourselves.

We, the rest of the world, are done with cleaning up your shit.

Look in the fucking mirror.

How ironic.