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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone who claims that China is better than the US even in the current Trump-version has even less of an understanding of China. My point was that it is scary to me, as someone who hasn’t studied Chinese history and politics in-depth, to see people who clearly know nothing about China, call it better than the US. At least I can admit my lack of knowledge.

But let me ask you this: do you think that a country that is heavily censoring its people, to the point that a Taiwanese video game was erased off the market, because it made a joke about Xi Jinping, a country that has systematically suppressed and erased entire ethnic groups’ cultures and history and throwing some of them in concentration camps where they still are to this day, struggling with a horrific human trafficking epidemic both in terms of sexual slaves but also children being kidnapped and sold in illegal adoptions, subjected their populations to inhumane and unspeakable treatment during Covid, lies about the death toll of Chinese citizens during Covid, has insane poverty and oppression of its people to this day and has yet to acknowledge what happened on tiananmen square - which, need I remind you - was a horrific slaughter of innocent youths - do you think such a country is less evil and dangerous than current day America? I am not saying American is in a great place right now, and I do not think for a second that Trump is doing the country any long term favours, but China has one of the most bloody and disturbing histiories of any current super power and the shadows have carried over from that time into current day where maybe some things have gotten a bit better relative to the horror years of peaches like Mao, but the effects of these past regimes and the social indoctrination and oppression is nothing any American or any westerner, really, can fully understand nor appreciate. I have read a few books and briefly talked to classmates of Chinese descent. One of them wrote a book about how her mom escaped China and fled to Europe. She’s not that old. It wasn’t a nice holiday, let me tell you.

But please continue with your smug insinuations and tell me how fucking educated you are about this subject. I would love to hear you convince me how America is worse than China. I heard some ding dong in this thread say that China was better because at least they only terrorize their own population and not the world. It is hard to somment on something so stupid.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a country that has systematically suppressed and erased entire ethnic groups’ cultures and history and throwing some of them in concentration camps where they still are to this day, struggling with a horrific human trafficking epidemic both in terms of sexual slaves but also children being kidnapped and sold in illegal adoptions, subjected their populations to inhumane and unspeakable treatment during Covid, lies about the death toll of Chinese citizens during Covid, has insane poverty and oppression of its people to this day

this applies 1/1 to the US

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 0 points 1 day ago

Not to the same extent as in China. You can only claim that if you know absolutely nothing about China at all.

Americans have way more rights and freedoms than the Chinese do. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant or in bad faith.