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Either way ICE receives three times more money in 2026
200 billion in the bank already. Minus whatever they spent since summer.
Who will be the left's DOGE when the time comes to choose back that money
I think that's just a properly funded IRS
And remember the dems that voted in favor of that increase.
They need to be primaried out
BULLSHIT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Big_Beautiful_Bill_Act
Thank you. I really cannot explain people being so adamant about hating Democrats to the point of lying unless they're intentionally gunning for a conservative agenda.
Did you forget the budget passed by senate democrats in 2025 still included massive increases in funding for ICE and DHS?
Edit: In order to maintain fairness I did make a mistake. They only approved a continuing resolution that allowed the previously approved FY25 funding to be used. Which was a massive increase
So we get to see what they do at the end of this month, but by passing the continuing resolution they were allowed months to operate at capacity.
The one that zero Democrats voted in favor of? Yes that one.
You may want to check again. DHS recieved all requested funding for fiscal year 2026. This was passed with votes including Senate democrats on November 12th 2025.
You may recall the shutdown and how they could have used the fillabuster. 60-40 vote in favor.
Edit: I'll admit a mistake they only approved a continuing resolution. This allows them access to the same funding approved by the Big Beautiful Bill. Which increased their budget by billions over FY24
Which budget bill besides the OBBB was passed in 2025?
Every year in October of 2025 the Senate must pass a budget for the new fiscal year.
Of course we had a shutdown with the final bill passed on November 12th 2025. Some agencies were not funded and placed on continuing resolution.
DHS, and subsequently ICE, was not one of those agencies. They recieved all requested funding. The Senate decided to keep the budget increases approved by the OBBB for fiscal year 2026.
I know its confusing fiscal year 2026 begins October 2025, but that's the system.
Standard divide and conquer tactics. If they can keep Democrats fighting each other, the Republicans can continue their business uninterrupted.
During 2025 budget negotiations senate democrats ended their fillabuster and approved massive increases for ICE and DHS.
This isn't divide and conquer, these are the facts.
Personally I would like to see them primaried out internally. If that fails they would still be preferable to any opposing republican candidate.
But also if these dems are going to help fund republican agendas how is that going to interrupt the republican agenda?
Democrats voted against the bill. They didn't have enough votes to stop it and they realistically couldn't keep the government shut down til the end of the year. That would be a bigger disaster to Americans than the bill itself. Why are you giving Republicans a free pass on responsibility?
I don't know, I feel like having literal brownshirts running around US cities murdering people was a way worse outcome
They were still doing that during the shutdown. The shutdown didn't impact ICE at all.
Federal funding is complicated, but essentially agencies are only given a portion of a budget to work with from the previous fiscal year. Operations for some agencies are slowed, but not outright stopped. Other agencies stop entirely it depends.
But the more important bit was caving and allowing them a full budget (currently running on the FY25 budget) to run on. They have another chance at the end of January to make another stand with the fillabuster again since they only issued ICE temporary funding (mistake on my part). So those 9 dems have a chance to fix their mistakes and refuse to fund ICE or at the very least drastically decrease their budget to FY 24 spending. Which was billions less.
They let them continue once, they have one more chance to fix it.
I really do hope they do what you say and shut down the government again over ICE. With luck they will only have to keep it shut down until the newly elected democrat majority house takes office in January.
Are you forgetting the fillabuster? You have to look at the dems that allowed this to go to the floor for a vote at all.
It should have been killed before the official vote.
Also don't get bogged down on a budget increase approved by the "Big Beautiful Bill". That funding was only in place for 2 months before the end of the fiscal year.
The dems had every opportunity in October 2025 to reverse this and use the fillabuster. They didn't even mention it during the shutdown and ultimately caved. That was their chance. They decided not to take it
So first you said they voted in favor of the bill which I proved was a lie. Then you moved the goalposts to say "well, they didn't fight hard enough" when you admit they literally shut down the government to stop the bill. Why are you so mad at Dems when you are giving Republicans a free pass?
Nope wrong bill.
The 2026 budget was approved on a 60-40 vote that included 9 democrats.
Also who the hell said I wasn't mad at Republicans? I want those traitors all gone
And the house passed it 222-209. If you want to blame the 8 Senate Democrats that voted for the bill, go ahead (Durbin, King, Hassan, Shaheen, Cortez Masto, Rosen, Fetterman, and Kaine),but blaming all of them is nonsense. Republicans are by far the problem and pretending there is no difference is delusional.
I never once said to blame all of them, only the ones that voted for it. I researched the Senate democrats, but if house democrats voted to they share just as much blame. None are in my district so I didn't commit everyone to memory.
Honestly you're starting to invented arguments over things I've never said
This thread is confusing because ChonkyOwlbear and TrickDacy are getting a lot of upvotes upfront, but they are both children with fingers in their ears shouting "nanana i dont hear you, democrats perfect, both sides narrative is bullshit".
They are ignoring the reality if what arrow74 said (we should primary these Dems from within the party and even failing that, they are preferable to republican candidates) and even after being proven wrong, continued to treat arrow74 like a liar who wanted to muddy waters on behalf of the republicans.
It was just a crazy ignorant boomer moment for both of them. But I needed this comment further up so that more people could just see
https://lemmy.zip/comment/23945523
The context at the end of the thread without having to go all the way through.
A lot of people are forgetting how a minority whip works in Congress. The term "whip" comes from a fox-hunting expression—"whipper-in"—referring to the member of the hunting team responsible for keeping the dogs from straying from the team during a chase.
That vote went down in one of two ways, either of which is the leader and the whip's direct responsibility.
1: those Democrats voted on their own, in the exact number needed to pass. In which the whip is responsible for whipping up their votes to No and failed here, and Democrats need to promote a new person and primary the congressperson responsible, along with the ones who voted in favor.
2: that Whip caved under pressure and grabbed the exact number of votes needed to pass, from Congresspersons in "safe" districts or who were already planning on retiring. In which case, Democrats need to promote a new person and primary the congressperson responsible as well as primary the ones who voted in favor.
The Senate Democratic leader is Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) The Senate Democratic Whip is Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL)
The Eight Senate Democrats/Independents who voted in favor were: Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) Sen. Angus King (I-ME) Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV) Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV) Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
The House did not have enough votes to defeat it, and all voted against but here are those leaders too. The House Democratic leader is Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) The House Democratic Minority Whip is Rep. Katherine Clark (D-MA)
Keep reading the thread you'll understand. By ending the government shutdown down they approved continual funding of ICE. Something that would not have been possible without 9 democrat votes to end the fillabuster.
ICE/DHS was only given temporary funding, so they have one more chance at the end of this month.
Either way those 9 should be primaried out.
Why are you lying? I cannot find a single democratic vote for that bill in either the Senate or the house.
So the Big Beautiful Bill when first passed did not require democrat votes, but that funding was only set for 2 months before the end of the fiscal year.
In October 2025 that funding was placed into the budget which ultimately was approved by senate democrats.
They didn't even talk about it during the shutdown. Truthfully they didn't even seem to care about it.
Anyway we know how that went they caved and gave the Republicans what they wanted. They had the chance to claw back that funding, but they didn't
Giving up on their filibuster, while shitty, is absolutely not approval, so please stop lying and saying it is.
Fiscal year 2026 budget that approved funding passed a 60-40 vote with the help of 9 democrats
Source required. Obviously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_federal_budget
Okay, so again, this is what myself and others were saying. After weeks of watching republicans try to drive the car off a cliff, a few dems caved. Disappointing, but not what your previously comments implied.
How? They voted to allow the bill forward allowing the republican majority to easily pass it.
Those 9 dems should be primaried out. That's what I said
And they should be primaried.
These are traitors.
I am not disappointed, I am angry, Trick.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be.
I'm saying you should be.
... they currently have more funding than the Marine Corp.
So, functionally, we're now up to 7 branches of the Military:
Army
Navy
Marines
Airforce
Coast Guard
Space Force
DHS/ICE
The latter two were created by Trump, and of course the last one is the uh, inward facing, definitionally tyrannical military branch, you know, the kind of thing this country was founded on fighting a revolutionary war against.
There's a reason we have a whole initial Ammendment out of the first 10, about not being able to quarter troops in private citizen's homes.
Trump absolutely did not create the DHS or ICE.
Yeah Bush Jr did. Trump just took them from a militarized anti immigrant police force to a militarized anti "non American" police force that will disappear you for "un-American' ideas or skin tones