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Updated to remove Bakunin and Chomsky

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Chomsky is the old dude in the upper right hand corner of the left-libertarian side. Although Chomsky claims to be an anarcho-syndicalist and wrote Manufacturing Consent, he was in the Epstein files:

picture of Chomsky on Epstein's plane with Jeffrey Epstein

Apparently Epstein "collected" scientists, and besides his social work, Chomsky is also a renowned linguist. (Like if you read textbooks on natural language processing and the author starts with a historical overview, Chomsky will show up.) But based on his (non-)responses so far, I am (and basically anyone who knows about Epstein stuff is) highly skeptical that Chomsky didn't know about Epstein's monstrous activities.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Chomsky is also a renowned linguist.

This is a bit off topic but in uni I was in a computer linguists group that strongly opposed Chomsky's theory. In my master thesis about Role and Reference Grammar, I quoted from this article: Blame Chomsky For Non Speaking AI

I guess that's part of why I never looked too deep into his politics and now I feel like I knew it all along. It's a similar feeling as the one I have for never having liked Harry Potter. It's the feeling that I'm a better anarchist than you.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's way more interesting than whatever crap I was on about! My current research area is in dynamical systems, so I've seen formal languages in the context of discrete-event systems, i.e. finite-state machines, Petri nets, etc. (E.g., the logic inside a traffic light is a discrete-event system.) That, and the LLM textbook I've been reading in my free time (Large Language Models: A Deep Dive by Kamath et al). (I'm gonna read the actual papers eventually, but I want to get a basic overview of the current state of the art before I do.) So I'm definitely not an expert on linguistics or computer science; my background is more engineering + applied math.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Chomsky also quite explicitly supported russia after the full-scale Ukraine invasion started. So yeah, he's all kinds of asshole.

[–] Silliari@quokk.au 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh yeah, that’s fuck up, i’ll edit the meme

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Silliari@quokk.au 4 points 1 day ago

I’ve already figured that out from other comments and have edited him out, thank you for letting me know

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bury your heroes, but also refrain from attacks that are biased or speculative.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Buddy, that is a photograph. I do not need to speculate about Chomsky: he's skeevy. QED.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The photograph shows a man seated in a chair. Get a grip.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh I see, you're not wearing your glasses. Here, borrow mine. 👓

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Glasses cannot correct your deficits in critical thinking,

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay let me be a little more constructive.

Chomsky appears in some of these images within the dumps produced from the Epstein estate by the Oversight Democrats:

12-18-2025 Oversight Dems press release contains the following link:

TW: Sex, R*pe, CSAM, although no photos of CSAM are in these archives.12-11-2025 Dropbox dump: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fq3vn18ltfd83re8ggtle/AHYB3CbERvyT38o_vHllVx4?rlkey=tz5pq4zr9i6nofkpi2g7l5vne&e=2&st=z46l8nor&dl=0

12-18-2025 Oversight Dems press release contains the following link:

TW: Sex, R*pe, CSAM, although no photos of CSAM are in these archives.12-18-2025 Dropbox dump: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/cl62lochkdzdalbzzqgq8/ADJIDEfLD1oQZrKmNeae2So?rlkey=y7529bx9tl7db6zf279jp3cyu&e=2&st=8o7kizhr&dl=0

And here is Epstein's email history with Chomsky (also his daughter) as he would have seen it, courtesy of the wonderful folks at Jmail.world:

https://www.jmail.world/search?q=chomsky

https://www.jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_025893?view=inbox

Now here's what I noticed:

  • We have multiple angles of Noam Chomsky in Jeffrey Epstein's plane (12-18 dump). Even if Epstein broke no laws, his nominal position as a financier and banker makes him the enemy as an anti-capitalist. More on that in a minute. But before Chomsky started talking to Epstein, if the currently existing emails are known, he either did not stop talking to, or worse, started talking to Epstein after Epstein plead guilty to sex crimes involving minors.
  • We have a photo of Chomsky being chummy with known fascist Steve Bannon. Now do I expect Chomsky to go full antifa supersoldier and beat the tar out of Steve Bannon? No, he's a dinosaur in that photo. But it shows that Chomsky is comfortable talking with the enemy. It would be like if you saw a photo of Emma Goldman chilling with Joseph Goebbels; I don't know about you, but I just wouldn't be able to trust her anymore!

IMO any one of these things would be enough for me to dump Chomsky. There's a big club, and you ain't in it — but Chomsky is!

Chomsky is skeevy as fuck. That's not speculation anymore.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The worst thing he did was sit on a plane.

Seriously, get a grip.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

get a grip.

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