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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's almost like he wants to be Kirked.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They all want it more than anything. He'll be a martyr, this will give them a justification to tighten the grip on power and finally complete the authoritarian transformation of the country.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It won't work. First of all, most of America despises him, which means he'll never be a martyr to them.

All that's left are the most Sociopathic MAGAs, and they don't care enough about anyone else to keep a torch burning for them. Even Charlie Kirk didn't supply the Horst Weasel moment they were hoping for. He is already fading from memory, and influence. Much of that was driven by his widow's own obvious naked, clawing ambition to fulfill her own psychopathic agenda using his name.

MAGAs don't do martyrs well.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most of America despises him

Well, voting patterns don't reflect that, which is a stark indicator that the guy is popular enough to be relevant for a cult.
Mr. Smallface Whateverthefuck was only known for having a face too small for his stupid head, and being owned by any college student that was allowed to talk for more than 15 seconds. Not the most martyr material, no matter how much JD's sidepiece tried to milk it.
Orange turd will be a different story I presume, he has some kind of magical grip on all those idiots, and there is a lot of all those idiots.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What voting patterns? They cheated in every election they've been in, stealing 2 out 3 elections. There are no trustworthy patterns.

All polls show that his approval rating is right around one third, and dropping. If they didn't game the system through election system games and outright cheating and fraud, they'd never get elected.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They cheated in every election they’ve been in

Possibly, yeah. We don't have enough data to say for sure, but possible. But they didn't have Putin's ballot stuffing power in any of those, so the numbers just couldn't be big enough for it to matter here (even though due to insane American voting process they matter during elections).
244,666,890 people were able to vote in 2024 election. 75,019,230 voted against Trump, 77,303,568 voted for him, . Let's be generous and say they somehow added a million votes and discount those. Let's then discount another million for good measure, let's say those were cheated from registering somehow. That leaves us with 167,647,660 people who saw the choice they had, and either actively wanted Trump to be a president, or decided that they don't care either way and will be good with any outcome. Let's say, half of those had change of heart. This leaves us with 80+ million people who are basically one social media post away from going full in into a cult.
Approval ratings mean jack shit, if the same people who just said that they don't approve of him, then go and vote for him. Words mean jack shit, if actions show different.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Naw, they definitely cheated in 2024, and it wasn't even that hard. All they had to do was switch the votes in one race, in the 7 swing states. That's how we ended up with MILLIONS of ballots with straight Democratic tickets, but with Trump at the top.

Who does that? Where are these voters? I've never spoken to one, I've never heard of one, I've never even seen one interviewed on TV. Further, these sorts of ballots were almost exclusively in the swing states. Why don't they live anywhere else? If they are all so concentrated in a few states, it shouldn't be hard to gather a panel of a dozen voters or so, and ask them about their votes. It seems like it could be an interesting news channel topic, even compelling, but nobody has bothered to find them, even though it should have been easy, there are MILLIONS of them.

Instead, the moment the race was over, DINO Bosses immediately declared the race "fair & square," and moved into being smug and arrogant about demonstrating what a peaceful transfer of power looks like, as if MAGA cares.

Trump has cheated at literally everything in his entire life. He considers it his competitive advantage, because he knows many others won't cross that line. He cheats even when he doesn't have to, just because he's sure it will give some sort of an advantage. He's a cheater, it's just who he is.

In 2024, he was facing the very real possibility, even likelihood, that he'd be going to prison for the rest of his life. He needed to win this election at any cost, and so did many of his friends. Despite that, the DINO Bosses decided, before looking at any evidence, that the one campaign that Trump absolutely needed to win to save his own freedom and fortune, was the ONE time in life that he DIDN'T cheat?

They can treat us like we're stupid, but we don't actually have to BE stupid.

It was one more DINO Boss betrayal. Schmuck Schumer and Jeffries have got to go.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

None of that matters in this case. Tens of millions of people are his die hard fans by any estimation. That's more than enough to start a proper religious cult and transform the country into a theocracy.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, pivoting to making him a religious prophet has been Plan B for a long time, and it will come back when he's out of office, even if he's being prosecuted. ESPECIALLY if he's being prosecuted. Having your prophet in prison offers a pseudo-martyrdom, without having to die.

During the Biden administration, Traitor-General Michael Flynn operated a traveling roadshow of conservative and religious speakers, called The Re-Awakening America Tour (wouldn't that make it WOKE?), and the overarching theme was that Trump is an actual religious icon.

One of the regular speakers was Lara Trump, whose speech claimed that she is in constant contact with God, that she SPEAKS directly with God himself, and God has told her that he has appointed Trump to be his chosen emissary to lead America into its Christian future. Trump didn't care much for Lara, until she started giving that speech. After that, he put her in charge of the RNC.

There is also the advantage that being a religious figure allows you to demand tithes, and there are no limits on religious contributions, unlike campaign funds. He can demand and accept any amount, from any country or corporation, and he doesn't even have to report it to the IRS. It's the perfect set-up for a conman and money launderer.

If Trump had lost to Harris, we'd be watching them elevate him to be equal to Jesus. If we manage to get him out of the White House, expect him to go full on religious whackjob. He'll think that Christians will demand his freedom, and even fight for it, and they probably will.

We could use a good religious uprising, and then we can crush those weirdos, too. Without MAGA or Religion fucking everything up, we might be able to have decent country.