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This year’s job market has been bleak, to say the least. Layoffs hit the highest level in 14 years; job openings are barely budging; and quits figures are plummeting. It’s no wonder people feel stuck and discouraged—especially as many candidates have been on the job hunt for a year.

But some mid-career professionals are working with the cards they’ve been dealt by going back to school. Many are turning to data analytics, cybersecurity, AI-focused courses, health care, MBA programs, or trade certifications for an “immediate impact on their careers,” Metaintro CEO Lacey Kaelani told Fortune.

But while grad school can certainly offer the opportunity to level-up your career once you’ve completed a program, it comes with financial and personal sacrifices, like time. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, one year of grad school, on average, costs about $43,000 in tuition. That’s nearly 70% of the average salary in the U.S.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We don’t need any more MBAs.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I actually think we need more people who hate MBAs to go through the degree so we can tell whats bullshit and whats not.

[–] AnarchyLime@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

Tldr; it's all bullshit

So software engineer here. I went back to school in my 40s and got my Executive MBA and graduated in 2024. I knew nothing about how businesses truly worked going in. I learned the basics for accounting, finance, marketing, strategy, entrepreneurship, org behavior, and more.

I'm glad I did it, I learned a lot, but overall it's like the sample platter of topics. I know enough to mostly understand the specialists when they speak, but I'm no expert in any of the topics above. I know enough to be dangerous if I was left to my own devices on any of the topics.

Let me save you all a lot of money. An MBA teaches you to view all business decisions through a finance lense. For non business people reading this, Finance projects forward in time, Accounting looks backward in time. The goal of a business is to maximize profit. You can maximize profit by increasing revenue and/or decreasing costs. If you list our all possible business projects, you pick a collection of projects you believe will maximize profit OVER TIME. Aka the time-value of money.

Now an executive MBA is basically the same as any other MBA program, but it's for people with over a decade in professional experience. I could easily see someone with less real world experience falling into Dunning Kruger. What business people fuck up is their assumptions on their "business opportunities" models. In other words, they don't account for some factor, grossly misunderstand a factor's influence, or don't give two shits because the timeline of a project will extend beyond their tenure. That last point is especially important to understand because on paper the finance might look great, but they won't be at the firm by the time the accounting of a project fully wraps up.

So yeah, the system is ripe for exploitation and bullshit. An incompetent business leader can make decisions that maximize short term wins, and split to another company before the long term losses land.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

It's almost all bullshit.

The main point of an MBA program is to indoctrinate students into believing that maximizing profit is never predatory, but simply the most efficient means by which to run a business.

There's also some "leadership" filler that is ultimately ignored in favor of profits, and some basic accounting that is essentially learning how to game the numbers to...maximize profits via application of debt and capital chicanery.

-courtesy of Boston U MBA program

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

MBA programs are mostly about joining the MBA cult. they aren't much for education or learning.

the biggest benefit is the networking you get based on what MBA program you went to.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We actively need fewer, a lot fewer

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

MBA programs are highly profitable for most universities. they are big money makers.