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[–] halvar@lemy.lol 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ehh. I'm not sure it's very constructive to make a topological argument from a debate people usually think about as a linguistic one.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But saying that to make a hole in a sphere, you need to make two holes in the sphere is funny.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very good observation. Now what about a hollow sphere?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

All spheres are hollow (mathematically)

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 1 points 1 hour ago

is x²+y²+z²<=r² not considered a sphere then?

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

I like to think of this particular example as a sort of reminder that we need to be specific on what grounds we are arguing. Colloquially, and for the sake of practicality, the straw has two holes. You would one hole or the other is in the drink, or clogged. But topologically, yes, there is only one hole.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Except maybe to illustrate the necessity of various disciplines, as this is a maths problem and not a linguistics one.

Arguing the linguistics of this is like arguing over astrology.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

In germany we say alles hat ein Ende nur die Wurst hat zwei