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Just save what you would spend on subscribing to tbis dumb shit for a few months and build your own machine so you don't have to throw money away on a subscription service.
In a few months there won’t be any affordable equipment.
There is the Steamdeck OLED still, Steam Machine and Steamframes on the way early 2026. Also there is enough used machines in the second hand marketplace to tide everyone else over until the AI bubble pops.
I don’t think it will pop. I think it will continue to gobble up components for the next 5 years.
I think it will pop. But oh no! Now what do we do with all these data centers equipped with endless GPU power and RAM that we are building? Oh, I know! Cloud gaming! In fact let‘s buy up even more GPUs and RAM then rent the computing power to companies Epic Games, Valve, Apple, Nvidia. Look! Microsoft is already adding it to Gamepass+++! And what‘s that? Is that Google Stadia with a steel chair?! Better be quick folks!
This is the future of mainstream gaming. I wish I was being sarcastic. It will be horrible.
It has to eventually, right? It’s just straight up not sustainable, especially in its current form. But I do think the hype will carry things along for a little bit. No doubt things are gonna be ugly in the meantime
I big game machine that gives money to rich people isn't going to break until there literally isn't any more money left.
Take a look at countries with people starving in the streets while rich people live in gated compounds. Still think it "has to pop"?
I mean "eventually" yes but for the foreseeable future Trump could continue dumping your and my money into it indefinitely in the name of "national security".
Yeah you’re not wrong. The AI market only exists in its current state because it’s heavily subsidized, and that very well may continue to be the case for at least the time being
What console does 4k/240hz?? Even PS5 Pro can't do 4k/60fps in most games, and usually it's at lower graphics settings too, Digital Foundry does pixel counting and frame rate tests
Sorry meant 4k/120, which the ps5 does natively, doesn’t need to be pro.
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And there’s a host of games that are 4k/120, sorry to burst your reality bubble, consoles hit heavy now.
And if you want to talk down sampling, the deck does it worse.
The deck is weak yeah, much weaker, so there's no need to embellish. PS5 runs plenty of games even below 1080p/60fps. Output is rarely the same as the actual rendering resolution.
You can't just look at the output resolution, otherwise that makes the PS5 and PS5 Pro equivalent in most games, which obviously doesn't make sense. You need to analyze the internal resolution, image quality, average frame rate instead of peak frame rate, graphics settings, etc
I'm not arguing against your point of the Deck being poor value if you just want to plug it into a TV and let it sit there.
Do you not know what the term “native” means?
Not all games use the checkerboard upsampling. If they do, they can’t be called “NATIVE” 4k.
I’m not looking at the output resolution, I’ve educated myself on what the console is capable of.
You haven’t.
Many AAA/high end games run at lower internal resolutions and/or frame rates on PS5/XSX. Otherwise PSSR would not have been a hyped marketing feature, they'd just run games at native 4k on PS5 Pro, but no, it needs PSSR.
PS5 Example: https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2023-alan-wake-2-on-playstation-5-remedy-raises-the-bar-for-visual-accomplishment-once-again
Below 1080p, even lower than 900p, that's for the 60fps target performance mode, there is no 120 mode
So the average is below 60fps, because it's not always hitting the target
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2023-avatar-frontiers-of-pandora-optimised-settings
I also see the PS5 at 57fps in that article
You realize that not every game on Steam is capable of 4k yeah…?
Of course there’s gonna be loads of examples that don’t meet the bar. That doesn’t mean the bar isn’t exceeded.
Yeesh, quit reading reviews and just google ps5 4k 120hz games and get a bloody list.
This shouldn’t be so difficult to figure out on your own.
I never said "every" or "none" on either side. But the heavy games often do not hit that bar or even get close to it. If all you need is a single example of a game hitting 4k120fps in order to consider it a 4k/120 system, well you can always run Quake 1 (with a source port) at that quality lol.
It's just a bit of a stretch. I really only jumped in cause of the original comment about "4k/240" which has since been deleted anyways. Calling PS5 a 4k/120 system is reaching, but whatever. You can parrot their marketing material instead of assessing the real world results of the actual graphically demanding games.
Xbox Series S can also output at 4k 120hz, so can PS5 Pro, by your logic these consoles have the same amount of performance, you just gotta generalize!
This was prior to the RAM rising, but Valve stated that the Steam Frame would be cheaper than the Index which was at $999 USD.
That could change now after RAM pricing, but nothing has been said yet.
Pirate 🦜🦜 time
...Pirate hardware?
That was the OG way of piracy. Except the hardware was, like, rum, sugar, and cannons. 🤷♂️
"Yeah, we're gonna do this new fangled form of piracy. It's like the old way, but without the boats and parrots and stuff. We're just stealing stuff now."
Why can't we have boats and parrots? 😕
Unfortunately they also come with scurvy 😔
Finally, a programmer that actually knows what he is talking about... PirateHardware...
Pretty hard to pirate RAM. Sadly all the wam you can download is DDR3
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I paid $200 for ultimate for a year and got borderlands 4 included in it.
You'd be challenged to build a decent gaming PC for 3 times that.
No, no, no. They said save up for a few months. So we're looking at $75 tops.
Let's be generous and say $100. That's 6 months with the most expensive tier.
That should be plenty to get a gaming PC capable of playing latest AAA titles in 4k 60 fps and high settings.
It's one computer, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?
I'd love to see what kind of gaming PC you're going to build with $30.
looks like it can run crysis
If they hear you say that they’ll jack up component prices more.