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[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats really suck. Our FPTP 2-party system is really some bullshit. However, it is really difficult for me to buy into the validity of the slippery slope you are describing when the people around me keep voting for the option that is #1 worst by a whole fucking lot.

And the further that #1 worst keeps surging and lapping #2 on the evil-dex, the further their psycho supporters seem to like it! We'll see if the pedo shit can finally reverse that.

This would be a different conversation if we'd elected democrats over and over to avoid republicans and somehow still got dragged to the right. At the end of the Obama administration, for instance, there was the concern of the bait and switch.

But no. He gets impeached a couple times for betraying the US in different ways after being openly terrible for years, and dozens of millions of people still turn out to vote for him. He tries some light coup and all the daily otherwise career ending craziness, and they turn out to vote for him AGAIN in HIGHER numbers.

The fact that the democrats are the good cop capitalists to the republicans' bad cop capitalists is definitely a problem, yes. Any of us who get to vote in the US should be keenly aware of that. And there are multiple things we can try to fix in parallel. But sometimes you have to fix things sequentially too.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The Democrats really suck. Our FPTP 2-party system is really some bullshit.

And this is the only lipservice you give to the notion that democrats' constant and deliberate move to the right isn't the best thing ever.

However, it is really difficult for me to buy into the validity of the slippery slope you are describing when the people around me keep voting for the option that is #1 worst by a whole fucking lot.

Republicans being evil excites their base. Democrats being evil excites only centrists. Unfortunately, that's who runs the party so they'll be as much like republicans as they think they can get away with.

And the further that #1 worst keeps surging and lapping #2 on the evil-dex, the further their psycho supporters seem to like it! We’ll see if the pedo shit can finally reverse that.

And when it doesn't because it won't, democrats will think the problem is just that they aren't raping enough children. They either don't understand or don't care that they're playing to different audiences.

This would be a different conversation if we’d elected democrats over and over to avoid republicans and somehow still got dragged to the right.

We elected biden and he was selling weapons for the genocide centrists preferred to lose to trump rather than abandon. No one dragged him there. He sprinted there on his own.

The fact that the democrats are the good cop capitalists to the republicans’ bad cop capitalists is definitely a problem, yes.

No, there are two bad cops. You just like that there aren't any good ones and never want that to ever get any better.

But sometimes you have to fix things sequentially too.

And sometimes you have no one to vote for who is interested in fixing anything. Enjoy your pedo in 10 years. If it takes that long.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What if the problems you're complaining about... are foundational to America, not the Democratic party?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Democrats weren't always like this. They weren't always interested in chasing fascists to the right for the sheer joy of it.