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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

In 10 years we'll have two pedos running and democrats will demand your vote for the second worst one.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Democrats really suck. Our FPTP 2-party system is really some bullshit. However, it is really difficult for me to buy into the validity of the slippery slope you are describing when the people around me keep voting for the option that is #1 worst by a whole fucking lot.

And the further that #1 worst keeps surging and lapping #2 on the evil-dex, the further their psycho supporters seem to like it! We'll see if the pedo shit can finally reverse that.

This would be a different conversation if we'd elected democrats over and over to avoid republicans and somehow still got dragged to the right. At the end of the Obama administration, for instance, there was the concern of the bait and switch.

But no. He gets impeached a couple times for betraying the US in different ways after being openly terrible for years, and dozens of millions of people still turn out to vote for him. He tries some light coup and all the daily otherwise career ending craziness, and they turn out to vote for him AGAIN in HIGHER numbers.

The fact that the democrats are the good cop capitalists to the republicans' bad cop capitalists is definitely a problem, yes. Any of us who get to vote in the US should be keenly aware of that. And there are multiple things we can try to fix in parallel. But sometimes you have to fix things sequentially too.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The Democrats really suck. Our FPTP 2-party system is really some bullshit.

And this is the only lipservice you give to the notion that democrats' constant and deliberate move to the right isn't the best thing ever.

However, it is really difficult for me to buy into the validity of the slippery slope you are describing when the people around me keep voting for the option that is #1 worst by a whole fucking lot.

Republicans being evil excites their base. Democrats being evil excites only centrists. Unfortunately, that's who runs the party so they'll be as much like republicans as they think they can get away with.

And the further that #1 worst keeps surging and lapping #2 on the evil-dex, the further their psycho supporters seem to like it! We’ll see if the pedo shit can finally reverse that.

And when it doesn't because it won't, democrats will think the problem is just that they aren't raping enough children. They either don't understand or don't care that they're playing to different audiences.

This would be a different conversation if we’d elected democrats over and over to avoid republicans and somehow still got dragged to the right.

We elected biden and he was selling weapons for the genocide centrists preferred to lose to trump rather than abandon. No one dragged him there. He sprinted there on his own.

The fact that the democrats are the good cop capitalists to the republicans’ bad cop capitalists is definitely a problem, yes.

No, there are two bad cops. You just like that there aren't any good ones and never want that to ever get any better.

But sometimes you have to fix things sequentially too.

And sometimes you have no one to vote for who is interested in fixing anything. Enjoy your pedo in 10 years. If it takes that long.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What if the problems you're complaining about... are foundational to America, not the Democratic party?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Democrats weren't always like this. They weren't always interested in chasing fascists to the right for the sheer joy of it.

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a weird way to deflect from our current president being a pedophile

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's not the point I was making.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This mass abuse would not have been covered up for 40 years if it was not inclusive of elite actors across the board.

And "we have scientifically calibrated how to be exactly epsilon less horrible than the republicans" has been the Democratic strategy since the 1990s.

Look at the UK; Labour is a preview of what the next "democratic" regime in the US will look like.

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's still not the point I'm making. The original comment seemed pretty clearly like a deflection away from the current president being a pedophile, and subsequently your comments also appear to be doing that.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm allowed to have eyes to see both that the president is a child rapist and that the democrats also suck.

Just because I'm not on my knees genuflecting in front of Chuck Schumer doesn't make me a child abuse denier.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And it will still be the correct thing to do.

Fuck. FPTP.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck anyone that takes advantage of FPTP to give the US a choice between two reprehensible pieces of shit three times running.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I agree! Fuck them all.

It's still the best option we have until we fix it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Four times running it'll be, then.