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[–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I really feel the pressure to upgrade from my S9 but, with ability to install a decent OS on it, I have a choice between a Motorola with the same specs as my current phone, so not much of an upgrade, or a Pixel/Fairphone without 3.5mm or even SD slot.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah, having an audio jack and filled SD slot really discourages "upgrading".

[–] dunz@feddit.nu 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fyi: The Fairphone has an SD-slot. No 3.5mm though

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No 3.5mm though

They really shot themselves in the foot with this one. The kind of people on the market for a device like Fairphone tend to appreciate features like this. There's no downside to including a headphone jack even if you don't need it.

[–] Delascas@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

I was a batch 2 owner of the FairPhone 1, the FairPhone 2, the FairPhone 3+ . . . and just a month ago upgraded to the new FairPhone 6. And a guy who absolutely loathes Bluetooth earbuds. Yet I don't miss the 3.5mm jack for a simple reason . . . wired USB-C earbuds are a thing. I picked up a cheap set from JBL and never thought about the 3.5mm jack again.

Yes, I agree . . . they could have/should have stuck with it. But honestly . . it's no huge loss.

[–] lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s hard to make water/dust resistant devices with the 3.5mm jack. It was designed to be simple not water resistant. Contacts are close, it’s an hole so water and dust hang out there. Some problems are shared by more modern ports (e.g., iPhone not charging because dust in the lightning jack) but to less extent. This is why they disappeared. Before it was a “must have” and producers had to either put more/better material or have a lower IP rations. After Apple showed that 90% of the people didn’t care, the others followed suits.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't buy that. Samsung XCover 6 Pro has a headphone jack and a removable battery and it's IP68 rated.

[–] lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am not saying it cannot be done, I am saying that it’s hard… that means more expensive… that means that either the final price is higher or the specs are lower or there are other compromises for reducing the cost (e.g., not updating the operating system)

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago

Oh, yeah that's why all the modern phones that don't have ports are so cheap...

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

No one is looking at the fucking water proof ratings. My phone is 9 years old and has had no problem with either water or dust. I dgaf about how difficult it is to have the port. Phones these days are 2x (or more) as expensive as mine was and we gained nothing by removing them. It wasn't about afforability. It was about cutting costs and selling earbuds to mindless consumers who only care about watching slop on tiktok.

I know, still a downgrade though.