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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago (4 children)

First, produce hydrogen with solar and wind, then store and transport it with rail and ships, and then it can be distributed to smaller vehicles. The biggest issue are oil and gas industry and politicians doing anything they can to stop the hydrogen progress.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

In the "smaller vehicles" part, great obstacles need to be overcome.

I would be content with doing only the parts that are reasonably economical and efficient:

  • produce it, store it as a compressed gas
  • if CO2 is available, convert it to methane (can be liquefied for distribution) or even bigger molecules
  • if there is demand, use it to reduce steel
  • if storage maxed (no CO2, no ore to reduce) burn it back to water in a turbine, selling electrical power when the market needs it

Economically, this would likely make ends meet - and keep hydrogen away from consumers (consumers are careless and their systems often faulty, while hydrogen is demanding and dangerous).

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

I agree, that's a reasonable plan.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@piefed.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Yes, using hydrogen cells as one part of the storage for over production of electricity from renewables would be the way to go, if you go hydrogen.

[–] Armillarian@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hydrogen in gas form regularly escape atmosphere and there's no long term study about what will happen if we mass produce it Hydrogen gas cannot be safely stored, the container will get metal fatigue unless reforged regularly Hydrogen gas is so small that it can pass through almost everything

Did your periods (.) also escape along with the hydrogen?

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah. Adoption means nothing as one is making hydrogen with the mindset they make petroleum based fuel.
Production needs to come before adoption. And by that, I mean, the end goal production process.
Any adoption before that is just wasting more energy.


But that's the same for batteries, from what I see.