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So you're not in the "they're only hallucinating" camp, I take it? I actually start out with a solid mental model of what I want to do, ending up with small unit tested classes/functions that all pass code review. It's not like I just tell an "AI" to write the whole thing and commit and push without reviewing myself first.
Edit: and as I commented elsewhere in this thread, the way I'm using LLM's, no one could tell that an LLM ever was involved.
I wouldn't listen to anyone who deal in absolutes. Could be a sith.
But for real. My manager has explained it best. It's a tool, you can use to enhance your work. That's it. It won't replace good coders but it will replace bad ones because the good ones will be more efficient
Here's where we just start touching on the second order problem. Nobody starts as a good coder. We start making horrible code because we don't know very much, and though years of making mistakes we (hopefully) improve, and become good coders.
So if AI "replaces bad ones" we've effectively ended the pipeline for new coders to enter the workforce. This will be fine for awhile as we have two to three generations of coders that grew up (and became good coders) prior to AI. However, that most recent generation that was pre-AI is that last one. The gate is closed. The ladder pulled up. There won't be any more young "bad ones" that grow up into good ones. Then the "good ones" will start to die off or retire.
Carried to its logical conclusion, assuming nothing else changes, then there aren't any good ones, nor will there every be again.
At least where I work, we're actively teaching the junior devs on best practices and patterns that are tried and true. Like no code copying, small classes with one task, small methods with one task, separating logic from the database/presentation, unit testing etc.
Edit: actively, not actually
then they will try to squeeze the ones that are sitll employed harder, because they "couldnt" find any fresh coders out of college or whatever training they did.
That will backfire on employers. With the shortage of seniors with good skills, the demand will rise for them. An employer that squeezes his seniors will find them quitting because there will be another desperate employer that will treat them better.
I agree. In the long run it will hurt everyone.
There are bad coders and then there are bad coders. I was a teaching assistant through grad school and in the industry I've interviewed the gamut of juniors.
There are tons of new grads who can't code their way out of a paper bag. Then there's a whole spectrum up to and including people who are as good at the mechanics of programming as most seniors.
The former is absolutely going to have a hard time. But if you're beyond that you should have the skills necessary to critically evaluate an agent's output. And any more time that they get to instead become involved in the higher level discussions going on around them is a win in my book.
The Force is strong with this one.
Exactly, it's just another tool in the toolbox. And if we can use that tool to weed out the (sometimes hilariously bizarre) bad devs, I'm all for it.
I do have a concern for the health of the overall ecosystem though. Don’t all good devs start out as bad ones? There still needs to be a reasonable on-ramp for these people.
That's a valid concern, but I really don't think that we should equate new devs with seniors that are outright bad. Heck, I've worked with juniors that scared the hell out of me because they were so friggin good, and I've worked with "seniors" who didn't want to do loops because looping = bad performance.
You said elsewhere that you're not correcting the AI, haha. Sounds like you only don't need to correct it because you're guiding it away from it's own weak spots.
So don't sell yourself short.
The AI hate here is because it is oversold to people who will only make a mess with it. It can be lovely in the right hands.
It's mostly in the wrong hands, today.
It sounds to me like you’ve got a good head on your shoulders and you’re actually using the tool effectively. You’re keeping yourself in control and using it to expand your own capabilities, not offloading your job responsibilities, which is how more inept management views AI.