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That's because Trump wasn't a client, or even a business partner, he was Epstein's friendly competitor. Trump ran his own underage model trafficking ring.
Why not both?
He was certainly sampling the goods, so to speak.
He certainly attended Epstein parties, but he also held his own underage sex parties.
This link talks about it more, and has an interview from Luther Campbell, AKA Uncle Luke of 2 Live Crew about attending, and fleeing, from such a party.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/welcome-to-trumps-teenybopper-model
As an added bonus, here's the history of Trump and John Casablancas.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/6/1578544/-The-Untold-Story-of-Trump-Model-Management-A-Daily-Kos-Exclusive-Part-1
Trump was part of the child sex trafficking scene before Epstein was.
Didn't he say something on Howard Stern back in the 90s about how girls needed to be at least 10 for him to fuck 'em?
I always assumed Trump was using the beauty pageants to traffic girls to Epsteins island. Trump being a competitor to Epsteins is a good theory too
Epstein got most of his victims through MC2 Model Management, a fake agency set up by a French pedo billionaire named Brunel.
Now, the feeder agency for the girls was a Ukrainian agency, also set up by Brunel, called Mother 1.
This feeder agency supplied girls to Trump Model Management, MC2, and a third agency called ID, or Identity Modeling.
ID, founded in the early to mid 90s, was operated by a man named Paolo Zampolli, he was in charge of the fake visas, and was hired by Trump to become the head of Trump international development. He's currently at the UN, appointed by Trump.
All of this, except ID, was set up after Trump's main source of underage girls was forced out of his own modeling agency, John Casablancas of Elite Model Management. (1998)
Trump only bought the beauty pageants because he hosted a contest with Casablancas called Look of the Year. (1992) This was Casablancas' main way of finding new girls to rape. Because competitive girls were more "willing". Girls as young as 13 or 14.
Casablancas even bragged about it in a 1988 New Yorker Magazine cover story titled "Girl Crazy". It was gross.
Trump was also mentioned in that issue, a bit later on in another article. He and Casablancas were already moving in the same social circle, but after that article became fast friends.
I don't actually know when Epstein joined in, but he was a bit player until he had MC2 to draw on.
That’s the thing that I don’t get. We know he’s a disgusting rapist creep. We know he also “likes ‘‘em young”.
The only thing shocking about when he said Epstein likes ‘em young is Trump thinks there’s a difference between 13 and 15.