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[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 39 points 1 week ago (20 children)

We need to limit the size of cars that can enter our cities. Seriously.

It can also be done in an indirect way, e.g. by making smaller parking spaces and give fines to cars that exceed the shapes.

[โ€“] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Allow them, donโ€™t ban.

BUT make owning one so expensive and annoying nobody wants to get one.

Extra taxes, extra costs, donโ€™t let big gas guzzlers in city centres etc.

[โ€“] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, pass a ban that only applies to poor people and let the rich continue to do whatever they want still since they can afford the fine?

[โ€“] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There are ways to make fines hurt everyone, see how Finnish people handle speeding tickets

Itโ€™s a percentage of your income ๐Ÿ˜€

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can have an income- and wealth-dependent fine.

It could be as a % of your total income (bonus included) + wealth (including stocks, full ownership chain included).

1.5% of income, 5% of wealth in bank account, 10% of stock value. If any of these three exceeds 300x the median of the lowest 10%'s salary (let's say that that's 10k), then it's 80% for all three. That would hit the ultra-wealthy more and so it'd be fairer.


For a poor person earning less than โ‚ฌ10,000 a year and having โ‚ฌ1,000 in bank and no stocks, that'd be โ‚ฌ200.

For someone earning โ‚ฌ40,000 a year, having โ‚ฌ80,000 in bank and โ‚ฌ10,000 in stocks, that'd be โ‚ฌ5,600.

For a billionnaire who has 1 billion, let's say โ‚ฌ2,000,000 per year as "income", โ‚ฌ100,000,000 in "bank account", and the rest of 1 billion in stocks. Then they'd be paying โ‚ฌ 801.6 million.

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