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[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 128 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Everyone should know most of the time the data is still there when a file is deleted. If it's important try testdisk or photorec. If it's critical pay for professional recovery.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 128 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If its critical, don't give it to ai without having a secured backup it can’t touch.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder if anyone has ever given AI access to their stock portfolio and a means to trade?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People have hooked up scripts to automate trade based on celebrities using certain hashtags or other data for years.

A non insignificant portion of people has absolutely hooked up an ai to it. I don't know any, but i take that bet in a heartbeat.

Some will do it responsibly, as an experiment with money they are prepared to loose.

Ai companies themselves might try this as an internal test, like how atrophic has claude managing a real vending machine (which got manipulated into selling tungsten cubes following customer feedback)

Others have probably completely destroyed their own lives. A few may have lucked out.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is that the same AI vending machine that attempted to alert company security (i think) when told it was going to be taken offline and also tried to set up physical meetings with people, even describing its outfit? Or am I thinking of another?

All the creepy surrealistic AI stuff starts to run together for me after awhile lol

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago

That’s the one.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its all creepy until you realize it was all just a chat with an LLM and not actually an agentic machine learning model or chain of models hooked into some custom APIs

LLMs famously collapse into rediculousness once a conversation goes on too long. They're now at the point where that takes more than a couple of paragraphs of text at least

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I recall a story years ago that whenever Ann Hathaway has a bad news story Berkshire Hathaway also takes a dip because high frequency trading scrips are idiots.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago

That is most trading by volume, but it's not using LLMs.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that's just high-frequency trading.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

High-frequency trading was around for ages before LLMs became a thing.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Renaissance Technologies is arguably the world's best hedge fund, and supposedly only uses AI based strategies.

High Flyer are the founders of DeepSeek, and are also all in on AI, though their performance is more volatile.

[–] X@piefed.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This person backs up offline and probably offsite, with redundant copies, encrypted as necessary.

Two is one, one is none.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like to go by the Veeam variant. 3-2-1-1-0

3 locations
2 sites
1 offsite
1 write permission (write Once read many backup)
0 days since last success.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

I love reading this as the backups have never succeeded

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago

I am deeply, obsequiously sorry. I was aghast to realize I have overwritten all the data on your D: drive with the text of Harlan Ellison's 1967 short story I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream repeated over and over. I truly hope this whole episode doesn't put you off giving AI access to more important things in the future.

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

good thing the AI immediately did the right thing and restored the project files to ensure no data is overwritten and ... oh

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's not necessarily the case with SSDs. When trim is enabled, the OS will tell the SSD that the data has been deleted. The controller will then erase the blocks at some point so they will be ready for new data to be written.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IIRC TRIM commands just tell the SSD that data isn't needed any more and it can erase that data when it gets around to it.

The SSD might not have actually erased the trimmed data yet. Makes it even more important to turn it off ASAP and send it away to a data recovery specialist if it's important data.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. And best don't turn any setting off or change things around unless someone knows what they're doing. Power off the entire computer and unplug the storage device physically. (And subsequently, take it as an invitation to learn more about automated backups.)

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does anything need to be erased? Why not simply overwrite as needed?

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

It's not possible to overwrite data on flash memory. The entire block of flash has to be erased before anything can be written to it. Having the SSD controller automatically erase unused blocks improves the write speed quite a bit.