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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

it disproportionately affects men due to the gender stereotypes we have about men.

a woman living at home in a low wage job is not seen as a social failure. she's seen as normal. because for most women the expectation is still that it's men's job to be the economic provider who brings in the majority of the income to the relationship. and men who are economically dependent on women are seen as failed people.

these are simple the facts on the ground. the primary 'concern' about young men is that they aren't earning as much as their female peers, and are therefore not qualified to be good husbands. and that this is their own failing, as if every guy who isn't making 200K a year is a loser. this is the social messaging young men constantly receive. whereas young women are often celebrated as' strong and indepdendent', even when they are economically depending on their famillies or a partner.

the genders are view very different and socially rewarded and punished according to often hypocritical standards. men were never liberated from traditional gender expectations, they still expected to adhere to them, while women are not. this obviously a huge social problem and it's unfair. for a lot of men the juice is no longer worth the squeeze because no matter waht they do, they are seen as worthless and shitty unless they can break into that top economic strata, and by definition the vast majority can't do that. thin

there are a million other things. like how schools are now organized to benefit women and not men. how parents tend to invest more time and resources in their female children and largely ignore and divest in their male children. the massive lack of male role models. all these things start adding up to major social changes and we are starting to see the consequences. and the consequences are largely that women are doing much better than men and that is seen as a social victory, while the men doing worse is seen as entirely their own personal fault, not the fact that society has systematically decided to boost women up over men for 20+ years now.

and the constantly popular feedback to all the systemtic, well documented, changes is simple 'well men just need to go to therapy and then they ill magically all become good strong liberal men'. which is nothing more than a massive dismissal of the social issues that are affecting men, especially young men. the response from the liberal left is akin to a rich person telling a poor person to just have rich parents and all their money problems will be solved. it's a clueless and stupid response that systematically denies there is any problem other than that boys are responsible for their own outcomes... but yet we decided 20 years ago for women they needed 'help'.

so the question is, if we want a better outcome from young men, when are we going to help them? the right is capitalizing on this by acknowledging the issues, the left acts like the concept of helping men will destroy all social progress we've made with women, as if we can only help one sex at at time...

and the root of all of it is the shitty economy that everyone is in adamant denial about.