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There's an art to diplomacy, and sometimes it involves omitting truths or carefully framing it, even when dealing with awful people, and compromising or postponing grand strategic goals for short-term gains.
I feel like many young men are being alienated by people pissed off with the status quo that fail at or refuse to engage with them diplomatically. I get it, I don't want to compromise or negotiate on basic human rights and dignity either. I don't want to wait for things to get better. I don't want to coddle the sensitive pride of chauvinistic dickheads.
But reactionary grift thrives on the (negative) reaction to being told your way of life, your habits, your norms are bad and wrong, and particularly to the (exaggerated) impression that you are bad and wrong for reasons beyond you control (like being born with a dick) or that you are irrelevant.
We need to find a way to communicate issues more diplomatically and include these men in the conversation and solution rather than making them "the other".
And we also need to reign in the hardcore misandrists who genuinely do want to turn this into us vs. them.
we know how do it. bernie sanders, aoc, and mandani show us the way.
the issue is their 'way' is wholesome and isn't based on self-righteous rage and self-importance, so people don't like it and it freaks them out. the issue is so many people use politics as nothing more than a drug to fuel their self righteous superiority complex, where they are 'right' and everyone else is 'wrong' based purely on the beliefs, not any objective reality or facts.
No they are very few, we need more of them on community levels, and before you jump "be one then" I would have surely tried if I had resources.
Thanks for putting it in words, people from the left at core want to help but they attack anyone who is in close proximity to them and appear to be the part of the statues queue, like " if not privileged why privileged shaped"
The whole situation becomes like:
"hi, I have problems with my job...."
"But you are a man, you are working for a multi-billion dollar company founded by men, who are part of oppression and putting the world in a dangerous place.."
"But I am a server at McDonald.."
"Is anything factually wrong with what I said... No right, see you are part of the problem"
The above example is over simplification but that's how many of the conversations have felt when I tried to explain my position.
the issue is people need an enemy. the left pretends it doesn't 'other' people because that's against it's values... but they do. they just other what is perceived as the dominant sex/ethnicity because that's punching up, but the issue is they lump in everyone when the demo they should target is really quite small. they go on and on on about incels, but incels are not a significant population anymore tham femcels or radicals are.
and they should get courting the average office worker and mcdonalds worker. they used to. bernie and mandani do, but for some reason they have brainwashed themselves that the average white guy is the problem with society... turning him into some evil boogeyman that must be eliminated/converted and if not eternally punished.
and while they go on and on about incels being evil they just genrealied to all men and of course... alienate men. nobody wants to hear how awful and shitty they are when they have done nothing awful and shitty. men are guilty by default in the eyes of the left, very similar to how the right wing seeks women as guilty by default.
Honestly, I am not sure how we can deal with that "enemy" thing, As of now, distancing from the online communities is one of the few measures one can take. But even on that I am not sure how much it works.