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[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Probably Lincoln. From that link (emphasis mine):

Mainstream historians generally hold that Lincoln was heterosexual… However, his intense bonds with men may or may not have had more meaning to them, with one notable case being his close friend Joshua Speed, with whom Lincoln lived together – and slept in the same bed as – for four years.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The documentary about him dealing with vampires doesn't mention it at all though

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Vampires are extremely gay coded though.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 7 points 16 hours ago

Fellas, is it gay to suck your homie dry?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Alright. I'll take that. Lincoln isn't the hero history makes him out to be, but he's also far from the villain that trump is. I'd say he was a mostly decent person, even if some of his choices were less moral conviction, and more of the path of least resistance. Which is insane, when you consider that the nation was SO divided at the time, that the CIVIL WAR was the path of LEAST resistance.

So for me, Lincoln middle of the road. As opposed to trump, who morally isn't middle of the road. He's more drove off a cliff into a ditch, car is on fire, people are dying, and now he's lying about the cause of the crash.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, at the very least, Clinton was president before trump, so he’s not the first no matter what. Not that Clinton’s a great guy, but he’s passed the lowest possible bar of “not trump”