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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Noooo!!!

It is ok for Gabe to be billionaire and profit off predatory gambling practices on children and micro transactions and selling broken games and selling unfinished games and repeatedly trying to monopolise the pc hardware industry and being anti consumer and taking 30% of all game sales

Because he monopolised the PC marketplace so I no longer have to leave the house to buy anime porn games.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Complaining about the 30% is insanity, that's how retailers work, it's not an unusual cut for an online store.

I fail to see how steam is anti-consumer, or how it ever actively tried to monopolize anything.

Selling broken, unfinishedband shovelware games was just them giving in to the demand to let everything on the store, after people (rightfully imo) hated greenlight.

Fuck the gambling though

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Complaining about the 30% is insanity, that's how retailers work, it's not an unusual cut for an online store.

Epic takes 12% and 0% until the game reaches a million. Devs are paid in full for free and giveaways and games on sale.

Microsoft also only takes 12%

It's only standard because Gabe got his greedy hands there first.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Physical retailers have been taking 30% before steam was even a thing. And no, the physical storage does not mean they should be paid more, because steam provides hosting capabilities that also cost money. Console stores from limited research seem to also take 30%.

Epic takes less because they operate the store at a loss in a desperate attempt to gain market share. If ms takes less, it's for the same reason.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes Steam is a defacto monopoly. But not through the actions of Valve but through the actions of it competitors.

Valve does not behave like a monopoly, and it takes its money to improve gaming for all.

I would get it if someone here would be really simping for Gabe. But may I remind you all, this is a shitposting community and this is a meme.

If not for Valve and their openness towards Linux, Microsoft would long have followed Apple and made a walled garden out of Windows.

If you want to make sure that gaming is not getting a walled of eco system be Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, that you need Valve.

Just look at that release: NO AI bullshit, no walled garden, no vendor locking. No locked bootloader's, repairability and consumer rights are in the focus.

If course you can point out that this is a profit oriented company and everything they do, they do to make money. And I would not argue with that.

But this? What is this? Why?

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes Steam is a defacto monopoly. But not through the actions of Valve but through the actions of it competitors.

Being honest with you. I didn't read past this. Because it's so obvious you're a young G*mer who has only lived in a Steam world.

Steam paid for exclusivity with publishers. Getting them to not only pull games from other online stores (because there were a number of stores back in the day before Steam killed them).

But also to change their physical copies to use Steam as DRM.

consumer rights are in the focus

Ok so I skimmed the rest of the comments and had to laugh here. The EU literally had to come out and tell Valve to stop being anti-consumerist cunts. And even now they're only doing the bare minimum. Jesus Christ you must still be in school.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok, so answering after reading the first line and the again you are to young you have no ideas.

Even if I was that young, that is just a stupid line of argument.

But, considering the fact that I am in IT for over 20 years now, it is just hilarious.

Just for reference, the first picture with me and a PC on it. Maybe you can calculate my age from this..

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So you're willingly misremembering to reinforce your brainwashing.

That's just plain sad.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Am I? Proof? Srsly, it you have some hard fact's (beside a single ruling some years ago because of geo blocked keys), let me know.

I bought my games on Humble, and GOG for a very long time. Since humble offers specific packages now only through a fucking Windows only Launcher and GOG likewise, I am FORCED to use steam..

But I prefer DRM free content.

That does not change the fact that I think valve is the most consumer friendly company on the market currently.

But this does not make me a fanboy or someone who must have steam the the good guy

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/valve-restricts-14-day-eu-refund-law/1100-6425990/

The reason you can get refunds. Is because Steam did this shit for years, until the EU told them to wise up.

So fuck off with your revisionist "Steam is consumer friendly" bullshit.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As far as I remember, and I may be wrong, you could always the refund, but with a very short time frame.

And: no company has a perfect slate. How do you live? In a self build wood house in the outback?

If I would want a handheld, the only company that offers one for a fair price and with the right to repair, is fucking Valve. You can ignore this fact, but that does not make my statement false.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

As far as I remember, and I may be wrong, you could always the refund, but with a very short time frame.

Clearly you didn't read the article.

Literally states (very early on I might add) that Steam had you waiving the right to a refund.

And yes. No company is perfect. But only Valve has brainwashed G*mers into accepting its monopoly and Shite customer support.

[–] Raptorox@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That was Charlie. He was a good boy. Died a year ago :( still muss him

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's not ok but that where we at.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

They are all billionaires.