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[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like I’m missing something. I get the wordplay, but I’m confused about the damage roll aspect.

[–] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The part you're missing is that it's the Feywild, often known for trickery and being literal with language. I.E. The classic "can I have your name?" being a Fey asking to steal your identity.

In the Feywild specifically, the DM's pun could have literal power in that the characters would take a literal fall, and players in the Feywild should be prepared for such shenanigans.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The classic “can I have your name?” being a Fey asking to steal your identity.

Which always annoys me. I'm just giving them my name, not my identity. And definitely not any sort of power over me.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once upon a time it was believed that to know a thing's true name was to have complete power over it.

This isn't commonly held today )why would it be) but I think that's where this trope comes from.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Source? I've heard people say that, but I don't know of any stories where that happens. I've seen something saying Rumpelstiltskin is an example, but as far as I can find the queen got to keep her baby because Rumpelstiltskin agreed to let her if she guesses his name. It doesn't look like knowing his name itself had any effect.

Also, if that is true, then this fey taking things literally would have the opposite effect. If you just tell the fey your name, or they find out through any other method, then they'd have power over you. But if they literally take your name, then it's their name, and now you know their name and you can control them.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IKnowYourTrueName

Scroll to the bottom and expand the "Myths & Religion" section for historic examples, including the Bible.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I don't see fey mentioned in any of them. Why do I always hear about this in the feywild?

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The myths and legends podcast covers them in a good number of stories. I can’t remember any of them but a cursory search shows that Isis and Ra have a story involving true names and their power. https://mythology.stackexchange.com/questions/4770/which-cultures-have-the-concept-of-a-true-or-secret-name

Edit: I completely forgot…the Jews also believed this in regard to God’s name.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I can’t remember.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

No clue where I learned that. So take it with a grain of salt.

[–] TRBoom@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You take fall damage if you fall from somewhere high.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If that’s it then I did get it, but it still feels like I’m missing something.

Maybe this one just doesn’t hit for me :)

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's because in America, the word for autumn is fall.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Also know that, as I live there :)

I think this wordplay just doesn’t hit for me. That’s fine.

[–] TRBoom@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re not alone, it’s a pretty bad pun.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Puns should be graded on a circular scale. The worst puns are the best puns

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe it would help to know that the Fey are known to delight in wordplay based magical trickery (e.g. the old "Can I have your name?" bit). It's not just that the pun exists, but that it's not the DM just making them roll for "fall" damage because he thinks it's funny, it's the sort of thing that canonically happens in the Feywild.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Because they just stepped into fall, the party was going to take fall damage. Feather fall prevents fall damage.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But why the focus on the bard?

[–] groet@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because they are the player that can do something about the Fall damage. Could also be a sorcerer or wizard.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

The bard might also be the one expected to catch puns