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Shit like this only makes me want to never buy commercial cars ever again. I'll buy every piece of a car and put it together myself before subjecting myself to that kind of abuse. I'm never going back to a renter lifestyle.
Repeal DMCA section 1201.
Eventually vehicles will be more like the other tech in your life, sorry you want to but tires from a company that we don't approve of, not going to happen because we approve the tires to work with our system and the tire pressure monitor is only compatible with Bridgestone tires. Plus they add 30% to the price of the tires for their testing and making sure that they work, nothing to do with profit.
Or like the cell phone industry, you go and fill up with gas, now there's still gas remaining in the car near the end of the month, next thing you know the gas station employee is there to siphon out the gas you didn't use. Well that might be a bit far fetched.
Throw a stupid chip into anything and then someone else has the control, which really is what the governments of the world want, they've had it with people getting ahead and questioning their decisions after all they know better than you and they will lead you.
Don’t laugh, but BMW in kinda like that with their BMW approved “star spec” tires. Transfer case blows up with non approved tires? Too bad. But the star spec version is different than the normal retail version, they are actually better.
https://youtu.be/cR47GRWuPb0
People who buy BMW deserve everything they get.
Off the shelf parts and open source designs are the antidote. Something like the defunct Local Motors was just a bit early for helping solve a problem like this. Having a factory or workshop for those without the infrastructure themselves to build their own solution would have been a major boon to giving alternatives to the "you will own nothing and be glad for it" mentality all manufacturers seem to be taking nowadays.
The stupid chips can phone home to somewhere else other than a manufacturer. They can talk with something like my self hosted home assistant instance through a VPN instead. The chips are just a tool for doing a job. Best to make them do work for you instead of a data grabbing, rent seeking manufacturer.
Trains are the solution.
Don't worry you can watch a minority get brutalized by the government as a consolation prize for your freedom
I will keep fixing my 2007 truck. I can change my own breaks and any other part. Also no tracking and my console has buttons on the radio. Same for my wife 2008 Hyundai.
Problem is the move to electric only (not hybrid) propulsion for light applications is ready and needed. I've been ready for an electric pickup that's reasonably priced. Now I'll just start by finding a body I like and start buying parts for electric propulsion one piece at a time.
I really don't think that the large manufacturers realize how simple electric cars can be made. So much so, that I believe the hobby is on the precipice of moving into more mass adoption beyond the typical tinkerers and mechanics. A model like the defunct Local Motors might have been 20 years too early.
Dude I love to electrify my truck, but long as it doesn't stop me from working on things myself. Let me know if you figure out how we can do this ourselves.
I'm keeping an eye on the electric conversion kit coming soon™️ from Edison Motors or at least get a parts list to buy everything piecemeal. Keeping your 2007 and converting when the transmission, axles, or engine goes out is a real possibility. Hell, even selling those parts to offset could be an idea as well.
The thing that converted me was a video that floated around the internet pre-YouTube where a guy did an EV conversion of a Volkswagen Super Beetle using lead acid batteries and a jet engine starter for a motor. It absolutely smoked a Corvette on the drag strip. My original plan was to get an old S-10 or Ranger and convert it. Building a battery box would be easy since they still had frame rails then it would just be a matter of getting the voltages right with wiring and a controller to map controls and slapping an electric motor at the end of an axle. Obviously it's a bit more nuanced, but it's a dead simple application all around.
Same. 2004 F150 here, which, funny enough, needs brake pads at the moment. Too lazy, too windy, not messing with it today.
Gave son a 2004 F 150 just paid to have pads and master cylinder replaced. Did cost that much. Fuck this noise right to repair.
it’s not really a surprise this only came up years later, on a typical ev you don’t replace the brake pads (if ever) because it’s the regen braking that slows the car down
the brake pads are only for oh shit moments
tbh i don’t really know of any real maint for a standard ev outside of tyres
That absolutely depends on climate and humidity. The discs will rust, and needs to be maintained by regular usage. And because of that, they will need to be replaced, along with pads.
you think a once a month at worst brake pad test will wear out a pad to the point it needs to be replaced?
if this was true petrol cars world be replacing their brake pads every month
a lot of ev’s now also blend braking, low speed braking is brakes, above 5kph is regen
It's literally in the owner's manual for several EVs that the operator is expected to exercise the brakes periodically to prevent rust buildup, particularly when driving in one pedal mode during which one may not be engaging the pads at all.
I'm not disputing that you sometimes can brake to get off rust
but if your brakes are getting rust on them from a lack of use, quite simply you're not going to be wearing them out to the point they need to be replaced
You will fail the yearly inspection here if there is too much rust on your brakes.
Also, at some point that rust will cause grooves in your brake rotor and they need to be replaced.
Brake disks that are rusted will not serve their function as a safety device when it's needed. Furthermore unused disks can warp, leading to early wear on the pads. Rusted disks absolutely must be replaced, especially in places where seasonal corrosion is commonplace (e.g. in snowy places that use road salt in the winter).
Ok thanks, but this is not a common issue for EV drivers
Actually, it is.
These are things I know from first hand experience. Talk to any EV mechanic in Canada, they will tell you the same thing.
feel free to provide the stats on how many brake pads for ev’s are being replaced every day
No. The burden of proof is on you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1agr1tw/ev_brakes_last_longer/
All the "what maint's do you do on an EV" I've read are like tyres + some other bits and bobs I can't remember
Now look up threads for the Bolt EV/EUV, or just search "bolt EV brake rotor rust." On the very first Bolt EV forum result I got, one responder mentioned not noticing rust, while the next one pointed out that they lived in California and that OP was in Canada. Road salt will absolutely do a number on exposed elements, which includes the brakes.
do you think the average ev driver around the world is worried about road salt?
Should be doing it every day to keep the rotors clean.
Then why is this dude changing his brake pads?
Look at what type of EV it is
edit: just realised you might not know, it's an N line Hyundai Ioniq
It's designed for a race track, this is why I said
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FatahRuark 12d ago
SoultronicPear OP 12d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5N/comments/1ojjp6m/hyundai_declares_war_on_right_to_repair/
I can't even imagine buying a track car that you can't change brake pads on.. I used to do track days with my daily driver back in the day, and would usually swap pads at least twice in a weekend (street to track, and back to street) I could do all 4 wheels in under 30 minutes in the paddock, no big deal.
At some tracks I could kill a set of new street pads in 2 days. So I started switching to track compound pads, which held up to high heat and repeated heavy braking much better - but those were terrible when cold, really had to be warmed up to work properly, so they were to the point of being dangerous to drive on the street.
And that was with a sub-3000 lbs car. The Ioniq 5 N is almost 5000 lbs, it must be absolute murder on pads.
yeah it's absolutely mental hyundai have done this tbh, I do wonder since there is so little maint to do on EV's whether it's an attempt to throw their service centres/dealerships a bone... but damn does it come off as silly